Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager Erupts at Hearn, Joshua Over "Scam" Job

[Biolink]

Finkel and Wilder are desperate they need the fight more than AJ. They have little TV ratings because Wilder is totally unknown in the US and therefore little ticket sales while AJ fills Wembley or Principallty Stadium.

Wilder has been the highest rated fighter on Showtime since Canelo left. Where do you guys come up with this nonsense?

[ukbox]

First, I see no problem with Breazeale/Wilder and Povetkin/Joshua this fall. It makes much more sense anyway. A good leadup to the eventual matchup. 2 legit serious contenders vs the 2 top HWs. Then we get the April 'All The Marbles' fight in England, and maybe a rematch there in the fall.

Here in the leadups we have seen all manner of back and forth, claims, speculations, threats, confusion, missteps... you name it. And of course it isn't a stretch to add it up that there's some blame that can be spread around to both sides. Both guys are serious threats to each other. Both have belts, even though Joshua has more. Wilder seems to think though that he needs to be worshiped. That won't work. He needs to lose that and just act like a human and relax. Maybe Joshua doesn't/didn't feel he was ready for Wilder, maybe he does feel he's ready. IMO he has a good attitude about all this, admits his strengths, faults and weaknesses, expresses a true desire to fight the best, all without showing a tenth of the huge ego Wilder has. Get all on board the Wilder train if you want though.... he truly hasn't fought the same level opponents as Joshua. Can after can after can... nearly 40 of 'em.

I feel confident we'll see the grand matchup this coming spring, and also confident it will be a great fight, however it goes. IMO Joshua wins simply because he's the more complete guy in the ring. Wilder could win, yes, but only with his power. Joshua has the better skill set in the boxer dept. And something that hasn't been brought up much, no matter how this goes, Wilder's profile in the States will be raised from this fight, probably internationally as well. So even if he loses, his next fights after his 1 or 2 with Anthony will be more lucrative for him. I'm sure Wilder's people know that, but of course they aren't going to admit it.

Let's just enjoy a great night for the sport this coming spring. Cheers to all fans who, like me, can't wait for the action.

Ffs you could eat a whole packet of rich tea reading that. Are you on a jihad Norman?

I'm on to you..😉

[STREET CLEANER]

Again, Hearn and AJ making their fans looking like a bunch of twats.

They are not fighting Wilder until they get Fury.

[Butch.McRae]

More of the same b.s.

They just need to announce the next fights. We all know that WBA "deadline" is bogus. The WBA doesn't enforce mandatories immediately. They usually allow champions years, I repeat years, to force fights. It was all made up nonsense.

Big Hearn already admitted what the plan was. ***** it. Make the next scrap and knock that guy out too. No point in going back and forth now.

This whole exchange in the media seems like it's doing more for Finkel and Hearn's global profile, than the fighters.

[Butch.McRae]

Again, Hearn and AJ making their fans looking like a bunch of twats.

They are not fighting Wilder until they get Fury.

This is probably true. Fury presents zero KO threat, and at minimum presents a competitive decision loss that can be ran back without much risk.

Meanwhile, Wilder could actually ruin the guy with a big shot. Maybe that's what AJ meant by, "I shouldn't rush my career." Lol That's a funny comment. Especially when his fans think Wilder has little chance to win.

[johnnycontrolet]

A world heavyweight champ who has 1,5 Million viewers on terrestrial TV(CBS) is unknown in my point of view.

[5000boxing]

Americans really can't stand the fact that a 'Brit' is the A side and calling the shots, huh?

Enough of the crying already.

Lmao! how much money do you make if AJ is the A side? How much do you lose if Deontay is the A side? I'm trying to figure out why u even care enough to argue about a side.. that's a wierd angle to argue.. so Americans don't give a flying **** ass about that wierdo shyte.. we just want to see it! One thing for certain, If Wilder was the A side we would get to see the fight this year ******! And AJ would have had 50 million guaranteed. But since AJ is the A side we get no fight this year, no 50m for bytchmade J! So shut the fuuc up about A side.. no one cares but u lames in the u.k.

[EnglishOxide]

I accept the Brit is the A side but I also accept that the A side can make a fight happen just like Canelo made the GGG fight happen. Now why can’t you accept that AJ didn’t want the fight next ? Why can’t you accept the fact that AJ asked for 50 million then was not a man of his word ?

Technically, AJ has made Wilder 4 offers to fight.

September 15th Wembley - $12.5m
September 22nd Wembley - $15m
November/October Cardiff - $15m
April 13 2019 Wembley - $15m

All of those offers were, or will be negotiated further. I fully understand Wilder waiting until after his next fight to re-evaluate the finances available to him. But Joshua's next date and location is set in stone and Wilder has had a lot of time already to agree terms and sign contracts. If he wants to take the chance of someone else stepping into that slot by stalling then that's up to him. But he can't go around saying AJ is scared anymore.


Now, look at the other side of the coin. Wilder has made just 1 counter offer.

October/November - $50m guaranteed for AJ or 50/50

No contract was sent. Meetings were cancelled. We don't even know what Wilder is making. This offer was non-negotiable. It was an attempt by Wilder to 'lowball' Joshua in the event of a 50/50 scenario.

I fully understand Joshua turning down this offer given the lack of details, his already sky high earning power and the unwillingness of Team Wilder to even negotiate financial terms like businessmen, instead preferring to try and paint AJ in a bad light by holding him to a couple of YouTube words he probably regrets saying. What would have happened had AJ not said what he did? Would they have still cancelled meetings?

So let's look at the facts.

AJ has made 4 fight offers, with dates and terms openly discussed, all of which were negotiated through dialogue.

Wilder has made 1 fight offer, with no details discussed and no negotiation allowed.


Please don't sit there and try to say the A side hasn't tried make this fight happen next. And let's not even mention almost 2 months of extensions applied to the WBA to avoid the mandatory to get this fight done.

[ukbox]

A world heavyweight champ who has 1,5 Million viewers on terrestrial TV(CBS) is unknown in my point of view.

When you consider the fact american terrestrial tv probably has a dedicated pizza channel, a dedicated trump channel & a tv station with constant give aways of guns...
Its not surprising that it only attracts 1.5 million as the other 3 stations get all the viewers

AJ would be lucky to get 100k viewers & 90k of them would think they were buying Anthony Johnson tickets

[Curtis2]

keep it real

Joshua= fake/scared champion....Hearn=unprofessional promoter....true facts!!