a lot of you guys seem to forget boxing is a combat sport

[John Locke]

this isnt tag and run. if damage doesnt matter then the fighters may aswell stick on 16oz gloves and wear headguards. some movement is alright but if u spend all fight on the backfoot then you should be penalised. Too many fannys on this website equate 'boxing' to running and making the other guy miss. youve got to land hard, significant shots in return. Thats the name of the game.

At the end of the day its a violent combat sport and thats why its so popular as opposed to other martial arts. People want to see damage, hard punches landed and knockouts.

so lets stop giving fighters pats on the back for spoiling fights and not engaging. You can outbox someone by fighting on the front foot, time to get rid of this lazy stereotype that the guy on the backfoot is 'the boxer' by default, and that the guy trying to make a fight is some sort of caveman. if both guys fought negatively then we'd all be bored ****less. Its easier to avoid shots when youre running away and not opening up with shots, it doesnt mean you are more skillful or slick.

And if you are going to trash someone in the build up you better not get on your bicycle when they bring the pressure, that makes you a ***** who cant back up your talk. real men stand their ground when theyve got a point to prove

Hit and not get hit. The sport is called 'boxing' not 'block punches with my face for your entertainment'. If a fighter wants to use his legs for defence to avoid taking damage, that's smart and HARD to do, but he is more than welcome to choose his fighting style.

If you wanna show us 'fannies' how it's done, lace up a pair and show us.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think landed punches should be scored. I don't think making the other fighter miss should score points unless you make him pay with landed punches of your own. If you land no punches you get no points from me. Making punches miss is it's own reward because you don't get hit and your opponent gets no points for hitting you. It's the same in all sports including non combat sports. In basketball you get points for making baskets not for making the other team miss baskets. In soccer you get points for scoring goals not blocking goals.

I agree, man. It makes plenty of sense. Willy Pep may have won a round without throwing a punch but come on. It's fun to watch great defense at work but offense has to come with it. Otherwise, it's just not boxing. Personally if one guy missed nearly everything all round and the other guy didn't even throw a punch, I'm giving it to the first guy. It's that simple.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

If two guys complete a round and one is throwing wildly and the other evading every thing nobody lands in this round , who wins the round are you going to reward the guy that continually trys but fails or the guy that continually makes the other guy fail, one takes skills the other wasted effort.

Boxing scores ring generalship, because to stop the other guy from landing on you and controlling what he can do and cant do is a form of beating the other guy.

In boxing defense must be rewarded along side landing because you cant have one without the other both takes skills.

If the defensive guy wanted to win the round, he should have thrown a punch. Damn, if he can avoid all that, he can land a punch. Otherwise, I give it to dude throwing. At least he tried.

[iamboxing]

I switch the channel when a fight gets too violent. A bit too brutish for my tastes.

[Madison Boxing]

What is being argued over is the EVOLUTION of the sport & how some current fighters work the rules to their favor. You're either a fan of old school boxing (one guy left standing, that's how you know who won) or prefer a fighter "outlasting" his opponent in a scheduled time frame where the winner is determined by a panel of so called experts.

The rules were changed to protect the fighters, it now hinders a come forward aggressor while benefits the avoider or pot-shotter.

It's no longer a match that's played on an even playing field; giving significant advantages to a particular style if one is skilled enough to avoid the actual intent the sport was created for. You know the part where; which fighter can defeat the other? Yes, defense if definitely a part of boxing but it still requires offense to win. You still must hit your opponent to defeat them. Outlasting your opponent is just prolonging the fight while avoiding combat, so unless your opponent quits or runs out of steam there is no way that you have actually dominated your opponent, only made it to the finish line in perhaps better condition. This is not the intent of boxing, simply a modern mutation of the rules that is in no shape or form in the spirit of Pugilism.

Great post

[The Big Dunn]

It makes no sense to over exaggerate the lack of offense from fighters you don’t like. Same way it makes no sense to over exaggerate the lack of skill from some guys.

Boxing is at its best imo when there is a mix of violence and skill. I don’t enjoy the 4 rd bare knuckle fights because they suck. I would find a fight between 2 purely defensive fighters boring as well.

[Scopedog]

Here OP, this is probably more your speed

[Armchairhero]

I get where the OP is coming from, no one will ever win fight of the year by running or have that many fans.

But on the other hand sometimes a boxing masterclass can happen, not that long ago billy joe v Lemieux was a good example of this, it was still an enjoyable fight even tho he fought on the back foot.

[Combat Talk Radio]

so lets stop giving fighters pats on the back for spoiling fights and not engaging.

Agreed. This why it can never be in dispute that Manny Pacquiao was decisively beaten by Floyd Mayweather for spoiling the fight and not engaging with his usual 100+ punches per round.

You can outbox someone by fighting on the front foot, time to get rid of this lazy stereotype that the guy on the backfoot is 'the boxer' by default, and that the guy trying to make a fight is some sort of caveman.

Agreed. Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn was no caveman when he decisively beat Manny Pacquiao at the Battle of Brisbane.

[Vinnykin]

I enjoy the clash of styles in boxing and the different variations how to approach a fight, this is what makes boxing the best sport in the world!

If you go in with a huge puncher that is prone to gassing in the later rounds, it would be a good idea to move around and make him miss for the first half of the fight, work the body, and then step on him later when the sting has been taken out the punches.

Of course, the clash of styles doesn't always produce good or entertaining fights, but that's part of boxing as well, you have to take the good with the bad.... when we get 2 styles that gel, and 2 very fit guys, there truly is nothing better.