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  • jas
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    #101
    -overpaying fighters
    - not having fixed tv slots so fans could follow when to watch
    - trying to make every boxer a star. Its been proven public only has enough attention for a handful of fighters so put all marketing into them
    - too many belts but thats a problem with boxing. Fans are confused. Ufc easy to follow. Shoulda pushed the pbc belt more
    -not starting off with enough major fights . First impression important
    -poor matchmaking at start
    - underestimating negative impact to sport may pac had

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      #102
      Originally posted by just the facts
      Did you change your moniker name again to hide from your racist past?

      Again if Al Haymon were Caucasian, you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs how PBC was the best thing that ever happened to boxing.
      I'm allowed to change my name, not against the rules of the site.

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      • killakali
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        #103
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Bounce pays.



        Can you tell me how much you are spending on this, what your production costs are?

        I can tell you that we have invested millions of dollars in originals. This season, we will have six original series, includes scripted sitcoms, our first drama, live sports with [Al Haymon’s] Premier Boxing Champions. Not so not bad for a four-year-old network.





        If FS1 is paying money to PBC, that's not a time buy.




        Why would there be? Haymon doesn't talk. You're the one claiming PBC is buying time on FOX. Where's your proof?




        ESPN doesn't pay Golden Boy. What does a press release have to do with it? Press release = not a time buy? In what universe does that rule exist? Especially since GPB on ESPN *is* a time buy. They had a press release. So even your ******ed theory is already screwed.
        FS1 is paying for production. Not paying PBC. It is the same as GBP on ESPN. They are covering part of the fees.

        PBC isn't getting a 9 figure deal like Top Rank has with ESPN. FOX doesn't pay PBC for content. That is why they do shLt shows now. Fox doesn't have a boxing deal. Their only combat sport deal is only with WWE. You know this is a fact. Prove it otherwise.

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          #104
          Originally posted by killakali
          FS1 is paying for production.
          Can you prove it?


          Not paying PBC.
          Can you prove it?


          9 figure deal like Top Rank has
          Can you prove it?


          FOX doesn't pay PBC for content.
          Can you prove it?

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          • killakali
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            #105
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Can you prove it?




            Can you prove it?




            Can you prove it?




            Can you prove it?
            i already did. 9 figure deal isn’t 9 figures annually.

            Fox does not have a boxing budget and u know it. FS1 has a minimal one and u know it. That’s why they aren’t even doing 20% the amount of shows they did last year.

            These are all facts

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              #106
              Originally posted by killakali
              i already did. 9 figure deal isn’t 9 figures annually.

              Fox does not have a boxing budget and u know it. FS1 has a minimal one and u know it. That’s why they aren’t even doing 20% the amount of shows they did last year.

              These are all facts
              Don't tell me what I know. Prove all the claims you made.

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                #107
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Don't tell me what I know. Prove all the claims you made.
                I will as soon as u prove fox is paying for PBC fights. This should be good. I wonder how long this will take.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  I will as soon as u prove fox is paying for PBC fights. This should be good. I wonder how long this will take.
                  You're claiming it's a time buy. Where's your proof? I have no obligation to prove a negative.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    You're claiming it's a time buy. Where's your proof? I have no obligation to prove a negative.
                    It’s not a negative. So using your logic Espn is a 9 figure deal since I have no obligation to prove a negative that it’s not a 9 figure deal. See how that works?

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      It’s not a negative. So using your logic Espn is a 9 figure deal since I have no obligation to prove a negative that it’s not a 9 figure deal. See how that works?
                      I have no obligation to prove something isnt. Youre claiming the Fox shows are time buys. You have no proof. I dont have to offer proof they arent time buys wheb you havent offered proof that they are.

                      Youre making the unsupported claim and then asking me to prove the opposite. It'd be like if I said I could fly and then asked you to prove I couldnt.

                      You cant prove that I cant fly. But you shouldnt have to. If I say something is, the onus is on me to prove it.

                      You say the August 4 PBC show is a time buy. Where's your proof?

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