Originally posted by AlterEgo
No Way Margarito Beats Mayweather?
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Lets say Vargas wins, what does Mayweather then do? Can Mosley bring Mayweather 8 million? I doubt it. If Margarito is such an easy opponent why not collect the 8 mil and get rid of him for good?Originally posted by DLTYou act like thats the only fight out there for him. He might move up to 154 and fight the winner of Vargas/Mosley which alot of people think would be a harder fight
Here's how I see it going down. If Vargas wins Mayweather will then wait to see if Baldomir wins. If neither Baldomir or Mosley win he is going to be in one hell of a dilemma.Comment
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I dont buy that Castillo stuff that everyone loves to talk about. I still said that those fights happened at the worst time of his career. He had a horrible 5 fight stretch after Chico where he lost his dad as a trainer and moved to his uncle. His dad is all defense and his Uncle is offense but you cant just change from the way youve been fighting all your life. It takes time and Floyd was so scared to be a offensive fighter back then. He would only do it in spurts.Originally posted by deliverymanMargarito will initially be the one pressuring, do you see Mayweather holding his ground and fighting this one in the pocket? Or more of what he did against Castillo, where he jab... quick combination.... move.
Against Castillo he basically ran but if he wouldve fought Castillo anytime after the N'Dou fight then no way he fights like that. The N'Dou fight was when he finaly crossed over to his uncles style and felt comfortable being really agressive on the offensive end for basically the whole fight.
I just rewatched Floyd-Castillo 1 and I always tell people to go to watch the 11th round when they go toe to toe. Floyd was killing him but its basically the only time in the fight he did it because he was so scared to but now he fights like that all the time. Against Sosa, he had him hurt in round 1 and almost everytime he went offensive, he had Sosa in trouble but he never sustained it and prefered to always back off.
After Chico he fought Hernandez, Chaves, Castillo twice, and Sosa. In all those fights he was scared to be offensive for long periods of time.
Thats why I say that the fight I want more then anything is to see Floyd vs Castillo 3 because Floyd would fight him the way he does everyone now and he would erase the memory of that first fight from everyone's mind. In the 11th round he went in the pocket and was hitting Castillo with every kind of punch and blocking all of his but he was scared to do it and its not about Castillo because he was the same in all those fights.
After the Sosa fight, I remember him basically feeling dumb and saying "Im a defensive fighter" but he said it in a sad way like he knows that he looks boring and cant beat these guys like he should be beating them. Now, he would never talk like that. It takes a while to finaly convert your style and I wish that he wouldve fought Castillo right after N'Dou because it would look much differently and Floyd would never run or move as much like he did last time.
Its also a big reason why I want Floyd to fight Margarito because everyone compares his style to Castillo and it will prove my point with how much more offensive Floyd would be in this fight then he was against Castillo and Margarito is even bigger then Castillo wasLast edited by DLT; 06-23-2006, 07:58 PM.Comment
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So now you think Floyd is scared of Vargas also? This is a joke. 1st off both myslef and Arum thinks that Floyd is depressed about not getting the Oscar fight, the 20 something million, and all the fame he wouldve got. I dont think he's really waiting on those other fights. He's just using that as a excuse because right now, he is mentaly damaged and needs a month to get back into wanting to fight because 8mil is good but its like 1 mil when you compare it to what he thought hw was going to have.Originally posted by AlterEgoLets say Vargas wins, what does Mayweather then do? Can Mosley bring Mayweather 8 million? I doubt it. If Margarito is such an easy opponent why not collect the 8 mil and get rid of him for good?
Here's how I see it going down. If Vargas wins Mayweather will then wait to see if Baldomir wins. If neither Baldomir or Mosley win he is going to be in one hell of a dilemma.
No way he fights Baldy. There wont be any money in it and it wont be a big PPV fight like he wants. He might cant get the money from Shane and you know what? Then he wont fight him. Its a joke that people think Floyd would actually fight Shane or Baldy for less money instead of fighting Margarito. This is what people dont get. Floyd doesnt care about the fighter, he cares about the money and fame. If Margarito was Oscar then he would be trying to fight Margarito more then anyone.
Also, for your info, Vargas people have already said there not interested in Floyd. Basically, I think the Margarito fight will definatly happened unless its on Arum. Dont forget that part because word is that Arum wants Floyd to sign a contract where he would get to promote like 3 more of his fights and you know damn well Floyd would say No without hesitatingComment
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......?????,Mayweather got him with some good shots when Mayweather fought him in the inside in the 11th round , but Castillo was drilling him also and to the body so don't give me this bull**** about Mayweather beating Castillo in the inside cause some how you think Mayweather was scared before???,bull****. Mayweather has looked impressive fighting aggressive for the last 3 years because he's been fighting bums, so don't give us that ****, Mayweather would be running away like a ***** if he was in the ring with Margarito.Originally posted by DLTI dont buy that Castillo stuff that everyone loves to talk about. I still said that those fights happened at the worst time of his career. He had a horrible 5 fight stretch after Chico where he lost his dad as a trainer and moved to his uncle. His dad is all defense and his Uncle is offense but you cant just change from the way youve been fighting all your life. It takes time and Floyd was so scared to be a offensive fighter back then. He would only do it in spurts.
Against Castillo he basically ran but if he wouldve fought Castillo anytime after the N'Dou fight then no way he fights like that. The N'Dou fight was when he finaly crossed over to his uncles style and felt comfortable being really agressive on the offensive end for basically the whole fight.
I just rewatched Floyd-Castillo 1 and I always tell people to go to watch the 11th round when they go toe to toe. Floyd was killing him but its basically the only time in the fight he did it because he was so scared to but now he fights like that all the time. Against Sosa, he had him hurt in round 1 and almost everytime he went offensive, he had Sosa in trouble but he never sustained it and prefered to always back off.
After Chico he fought Hernandez, Chaves, Castillo twice, and Sosa. In all those fights he was scared to be offensive for long periods of time.
Thats why I say that the fight I want more then anything is to see Floyd vs Castillo 3 because Floyd would fight him the way he does everyone now and he would erase the memory of that first fight from everyone's mind. In the 11th round he went in the pocket and was hitting Castillo with every kind of punch and blocking all of his but he was scared to do it and its not about Castillo because he was the same in all those fights.
After the Sosa fight, I remember him basically feeling dumb and saying "Im a defensive fighter" but he said it in a sad way like he knows that he looks boring and cant beat these guys like he should be beating them. Now, he would never talk like that. It takes a while to finaly convert your style and I wish that he wouldve fought Castillo right after N'Dou because it would look much differently and Floyd would never run or move as much like he did last time.
Its also a big reason why I want Floyd to fight Margarito because everyone compares his style to Castillo and it will prove my point with how much more offensive Floyd would be in this fight then he was against Castillo and Margarito is even bigger then Castillo wasComment
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People just love to hate on Mayweather, He should take the fight and beat his ass, then who'll Floyd haters put their hopes on? Or what excuses will they come up with for him? Floyd beat the WW king, Judah might not have been focused when he faught Baldy, but he was when he faught PBF, & Floyd schooled him, anything that looked impressive in that fight from Judah was simply cause Floyd was waiting him out. He'll make Margarito look as bad as Gatti, you can quote me on that, & I think he should & probably will take the fight, just so he has nothing left to prove in the WW devision, then he'll either fight once more at WW or move up to Jr Middle weight & school Mosley before going on to the only opponent that has anything on PBF; ODLH.
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Cut it with all this childish 'hate' business. Floyd is a boxer and p4p number one, and as such we expect him to fight the best. Margarito has been rated top 3 at 147 for a while now. It does not do any service to you to discount Margarito, because if Floyd wins you might as well say he beat a nobody.Originally posted by AllEyesOpenPeople just love to hate on Mayweather, He should take the fight and beat his ass, then who'll Floyd haters put their hopes on? Or what excuses will they come up with for him? Floyd beat the WW king, Judah might not have been focused when he faught Baldy, but he was when he faught PBF, & Floyd schooled him, anything that looked impressive in that fight from Judah was simply cause Floyd was waiting him out. He'll make Margarito look as bad as Gatti, you can quote me on that, & I think he should & probably will take the fight, just so he has nothing left to prove in the WW devision, then he'll either fight once more at WW or move up to Jr Middle weight & school Mosley before going on to the only opponent that has anything on PBF; ODLH.
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im black and floyd is the most overrated fighter in years, but you know what he out trains his opponets , but it shows you dont have to be blessed to be the best at something,Originally posted by chololofoo this threat is bullsjit this is black people getting mad because a mexican is punking the **** out of him and because pretty girl is mad
ps. floyds right hand is trashComment
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