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  • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    hearn was verbally promising the fight was next, but the actual contract didnt reflect that promise. hearn was never willing to sign a contract guaranteeing the fight was next. he strung them along until finally admitting the fight would be in april.

    finkel was being told he'd have a date that week. he was going to fill in that date and sign by friday. but when hearn finally have him the date, it was april. hearn never actually wanted the fight next.
    again, you are leaving stuff out and changing facts. first off, finkel was going to respond with comments after 5 days (which he already knew and had answers to, btw), not with a signed contract. hearn only gave him the april date after the mandatory was demanded, as a response to finkel stalling.

    if you know hearn verbally promised, why leave that out of your arguments? again, all finkel had to do was return the contract with the provisions hearn promised, with both sides KNOWING that the terms that were agreed to included a november fight. he didn't even have to sign it. all he had to do was just respond in a timely manner that doesn't show stall tactics.

    if, lets say, you are telling the truth, that finkel was just waiting for a date till the friday, then why not just say the following: " we have seen the contract. we are going to sign it as soon as we get the official november date that was promised"?? why would finkel even give a specific day on which he would respond when he doesn't even know if he will have the november date by then??

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    • Originally posted by that g View Post
      again, you are leaving stuff out and changing facts.
      No I'm not. You just take Hearn's word for everything even though he's lying.


      first off, finkel was going to respond with comments after 5 days (which he already knew and had answers to, btw), not with a signed contract. hearn only gave him the april date after the mandatory was demanded, as a response to finkel stalling.
      That is Hearn's version of events, but his version of events doesn't make any sense. The Povetkin fight still isn't signed and the WBA's deadline was meaningless as a Wilder fight could still be signed until a purse bid was ordered and held.

      Hearn's advantage is AJ fans want to believe him and because they're fans, they don't know how business is typically conducted. So Hearn becomes a cult leader selling a false version of events. The WBA's order did not prevent the Wilder fight in any way whatsoever. Wilder was going to sign that week as long as the contract guaranteed the fight was next.


      if you know hearn verbally promised, why leave that out of your arguments? again, all finkel had to do was return the contract with the provisions hearn promised, with both sides KNOWING that the terms that were agreed to included a november fight. he didn't even have to sign it. all he had to do was just respond in a timely manner that doesn't show stall tactics.
      Hearn was telling Finkel he'd have a date coming soon. So Finkel was waiting. Then when Hearn finally told him the date, it was April. It was a complete bait and switch.

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      • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        No I'm not. You just take Hearn's word for everything even though he's lying.
        How is he lying? are there any facts finkel or wilder can provide or have provided to show that?


        That is Hearn's version of events, but his version of events doesn't make any sense. The Povetkin fight still isn't signed and the WBA's deadline was meaningless as a Wilder fight could still be signed until a purse bid was ordered and held.
        again, it's not about what makes sense, but what both sides have said on camera. fact remains, wilder and his team still never responded back with comments or with a signed contract even if what you say is true. the deadline is not meaningless. if we have to debate that then we are all wasting our time here. now you can argue about whether or not hearn influenced the wba to make the call. no one can confirm or deny that as of now.

        Hearn's advantage is AJ fans want to believe him and because they're fans, they don't know how business is typically conducted. So Hearn becomes a cult leader selling a false version of events. The WBA's order did not prevent the Wilder fight in any way whatsoever. Wilder was going to sign that week as long as the contract guaranteed the fight was next.
        then they should have just sent over the signed contract for the november fight, or sent comments back either as originally agreed to or with those provisions put in the moment they knew the comments. and again, you're twisting. wilder was not planning to sign, but to send back with comments, even with the date, because they supposedly had more than one issue.

        of course hearn wants everyone to believe him. both (all) promoters do. the fact still remains, only one side has real actions and facts to back up their statements.


        Hearn was telling Finkel he'd have a date coming soon. So Finkel was waiting. Then when Hearn finally told him the date, it was April. It was a complete bait and switch.
        no it wasn't. again, if that was the case, why not say "we will sign as soon as we get the date"? why give a day to send back comments when you don't know when you will get what you need to supposedly send back comments? and even if it is the case, why not respond back with an official counter for the april date?

        even if hearn is corrupt and didn't want the fight, however unlikely that is, i don't think it's debatable that finkle has been stalliing.

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        • Come on, you dont make a 50 mil offer like that and refuse to even meet your opposite number when hes in the same city as you, its a gimmick, a bait tactic, its there to antagonize not to make a deal

          if he really wanted to make it happen, they would have left out all the 24hr BS, why put time limit pressure and all that BS into the public, its cloak and dagger stuff, its only sensible to want to see some details, you are only actually making what you seem to want move further away

          by adding all that BS to the offer they made the BS the story, not the offer, they knew joshua was not going to travel for this fight

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          • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
            So all Hearn had to do was confirm that 50 million would be an acceptable purse if the other details were worked out to his satisfaction. Hearn refused to do that. Hearn likes to play coy, commit to nothing, and then pull a switcheroo on you at the last minute. Which is exactly what we just saw with him trying to move the fight to April.

            Finkel has been around forever. He's not going to play those kinds of games. If there was a point in meeting, he would have met. Hearn just wanted the PR opportunity to claim they met to try to make the fight even if the truth was that he didn't want the 50 million offer.
            No he had to accept it.

            Stop this bs. Finkel and Wilder were playing games with the media and the fans to the same extent Hearn and AJ was.

            Denying that is delusional.

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            • so you guys would rather watch the fight on an app and not regular ppv tv?

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              • Originally posted by Songbird View Post
                Come on, you dont make a 50 mil offer like that and refuse to even meet your opposite number when hes in the same city as you, its a gimmick, a bait tactic, its there to antagonize not to make a deal

                if he really wanted to make it happen, they would have left out all the 24hr BS, why put time limit pressure and all that BS into the public, its cloak and dagger stuff, its only sensible to want to see some details, you are only actually making what you seem to want move further away

                by adding all that BS to the offer they made the BS the story, not the offer, they knew joshua was not going to travel for this fight
                didn't hearn say he got his 4 questions answered concerning the 50mil? why is the 24 hours still being brought up? the 24 hours people should be focusing on is the 24 hours hearn n aj had to sign the pedvtkin fight or be stripped. what happened to that?

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                • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post
                  didn't hearn say he got his 4 questions answered concerning the 50mil? why is the 24 hours still being brought up? the 24 hours people should be focusing on is the 24 hours hearn n aj had to sign the pedvtkin fight or be stripped. what happened to that?
                  well,
                  luckily they had been working on that contract in case wilder and his team stalled the fight-making process into oblivion. and wouldn't you know it, they did! the povetkin fight is getting announced next week, and the wba is already aware. there's nothing that shows that the povetkin fight wasn't signed within that 24 hr window.

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                  • Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                    I go to more boxing shows in a year than you’ve been to in your sad little life, I’m a bigger fan than you’ll ever be😂😂

                    And seriously kid you can’t even spell Klitschko, you can’t call anyone an idiot.
                    “Klitchko”😭😭😭

                    Nice try Juggernonce🎣
                    You dont even know what a smart T.V was ?

                    You should make yourself void of this thread ,look at the replies you were hit with !

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                    • Originally posted by that g View Post
                      well,
                      luckily they had been working on that contract in case wilder and his team stalled the fight-making process into oblivion. and wouldn't you know it, they did! the povetkin fight is getting announced next week, and the wba is already aware. there's nothing that shows that the povetkin fight wasn't signed within that 24 hr window.
                      I think the 24 hours was BS but who am I? its also weird that hearn said he couldn't do the fight for September with wilder because aj wanted it at wembley and it was too late to book wembley... then it comes out aj vs pedvtkin is at wembly in sept, but im sure you will all have an excuse and defend that too. having a few questions about a contract is not stalling. that contract was pathetic. only DANZ no showtime, they pick the refs and officials, only a guaranteed rematch if AJ loses, if wilder wins hes still the B side in a mandatory rematch that will have to be on DANZ, for a future date in 2019 meaning that if by chance pedvtkin beats aj hes still locked into it. Wilder agreed with the flat fee for the fight to be next. if wilder knew those terms and then agreed but didn't sign the contract id be right along with you all asking him to sign it but its simply not the case and you all are running with it!

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