Crawford vs Canelo @Middleweight. Who wins?

[GhostofDempsey]

I've never heard that before. That's a 30 lb jump. are you sure? His frame looks too small for that.

Either way, Canelo probably walks around at around 200 so and will have a significant size advantage. It's pretty much just as big of a disadvantage as he would have fighting GGG. Will anyone in their right mind pick Bud over GGG? I son't think so. (Other than this O Propet moron)

Yes, 177 is actually a conservative measure since he weighed that much during a training camp, which means he likely lost weight just to get to 177 at that point.

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[O Prophet]

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[Thuglife Nelo]

Yes, 177 is actually a conservative measure since he weighed that much during a training camp, which means he likely lost weight just to get to 177 at that point.

Most all elite stars are advised and assisted to make particular starting weights when growing their legacy. The fighter must acknowledge and commit, and their trainers must be able to facilitate the plan at full capacity. Not many can do it, but the best who can go hard in the ring can withstand most tolerances, including their dedication to make weights very low to start. Of course it's all a regimen, including the weigh in and draining that many do. Crawford, Golovkin, BJS... these particular fighters out of many more had deep sunken eyes that in reality isn't healthy. Before advanced drug testing came into play with contract stipulations, fighters agree to particular vitamin "****tails" that replenish them for fight night. That was highly the case in the UFC, and many UFC stars found out these problems and would then opt to taking something and be prepared for fight night, and the money they earned was worth it.

But yes, regarding your Crawford picture, TC looked horrible at 135 weigh ins and he's 32 years of age. It's hard to believe. Many fighters by their late 20's, P4P multiple division champs, did it earlier than Crawford. So we could theorize that Crawford was just hanging around 135 with assistance when in reality he should've been fighting at 147 by 2015.

Crawford is normal sized Welterweight, and his age is consistent with seasoned 147 fighters who've been fighting at that class for years and not looking eye drained.

[GhostofDempsey]

Most all elite stars are advised and assisted to make particular starting weights when growing their legacy. The fighter must acknowledge and commit, and their trainers must be able to facilitate the plan at full capacity. Not many can do it, but the best who can go hard in the ring can withstand most tolerances, including their dedication to make weights very low to start. Of course it's all a regimen, including the weigh in and draining that many do. Crawford, Golovkin, BJS... these particular fighters out of many more had deep sunken eyes that in reality isn't healthy. Before advanced drug testing came into play with contract stipulations, fighters agree to particular vitamin "****tails" that replenish them for fight night. That was highly the case in the UFC, and many UFC stars found out these problems and would then opt to taking something and be prepared for fight night, and the money they earned was worth it.

But yes, regarding your Crawford picture, TC looked horrible at 135 weigh ins and he's 32 years of age. It's hard to believe. Many fighters by their late 20's, P4P multiple division champs, did it earlier than Crawford. So we could theorize that Crawford was just hanging around 135 with assistance when in reality he should've been fighting at 147 by 2015.

Crawford is normal sized Welterweight, and his age is consistent with seasoned 147 fighters who've been fighting at that class for years and not looking eye drained.

Drying out and draining down several weight classes is nothing new. Some more than others. GGG usually cuts about 10-12 pounds to make 160, he is a normal sized MW, unlike Jacobs, Canelo and Charlo.

I recall reading an article where Pazienza used to lose upwards of 40-50 pounds to make weight for some of his fights. Duran had to lose over 40 pounds in just a few weeks to make weight for his rematch with Leonard. Mikey Garcia has been on record as walking around at 166+ while competing at 130/5.

Bud, like several other WWs like Horn, Spence, Porter are walking around as LHWs. I'm sure Broner's lard azz had to lose a good 20 pounds to make 147 last week.

Jake LaMotta used to lament that he wished there was a 168 lb. division when he fought since he struggled to make 160 but was too small for 175.

I am a staunch supporter of rehydration clauses. I don't think fighters should be allowed to rehydrate past the next weight class. There is a reason for weight classes and they should not be manipulated or compromised to such extremes.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Drying out and draining down several weight classes is nothing new. Some more than others. GGG usually cuts about 10-12 pounds to make 160, he is a normal sized MW, unlike Jacobs, Canelo and Charlo.

I recall reading an article where Pazienza used to lose upwards of 40-50 pounds to make weight for some of his fights. Duran had to lose over 40 pounds in just a few weeks to make weight for his rematch with Leonard. Mikey Garcia has been on record as walking around at 166+ while competing at 130/5.

Bud, like several other WWs like Horn, Spence, Porter are walking around as LHWs. I'm sure Broner's lard azz had to lose a good 20 pounds to make 147 last week.

Jake LaMotta used to lament that he wished there was a 168 lb. division when he fought since he struggled to make 160 but was too small for 175.

I am a staunch supporter of rehydration clauses. I don't think fighters should be allowed to rehydrate past the next weight class. There is a reason for weight classes and they should not be manipulated or compromised to such extremes.

I agree, but in the case of guys like Vinnie Paz, his physique GREW up going up in weights. Also there seems to be some empathy between parties, not so sure, but after his crazy accident, it would seem wise to take steroids for such a recovery. Guys like RJJ imho would most likely allow Paz to take whatever he wanted since let's be honest, it was an unfair matchup to begin with. Vinnie Paz needed to gain mass to compress his spinal injuries so bulking up was a great choice. Paz is a different variable imo, just because I'm sure he got a pass for certain things considering his detrimental accident.

Canelo isn't a good example. Even when Canelo fought at 155, for those theoretical weight gains he was never bigger than when he fought at 160-168. I do agree with you regarding Jacobs. For instance DJ has been fighting at 160 for how many years? His previous physique is not the same as his current physique. Even Charlo, seems to walk around 190lb comfortably and looking SHARP!

Overall, Charlo and Jacobs are bigger than Canelo by like 3lbs. Canelo when he fought Chavez Jr. he looked to have gained about 7lbs top. Looked great with no eyes sunken in and overall the body fat there. When we saw Chavez Jr., he looked like a walking corpse, whom was also limited with a rehydration clause too. Chavez Jr. could rehydrate to the mid 185lbs+ when he used to be the 160 Champ. When Canelo fought Fielding, Canelo looked to have gained about 5lbs tops whereas Fielding gains to the 190lbs+ like most HUGE 168 fighters. And again, Fielding too had a rehydration clause.

To sum it up, Canelo was highly criticized at 154-155, but in retrospective to what you acknowledge and all the other fighters mentioned, Canelo has hit his threshold at his current weight. He's not rehydrating as he did in the mid 150s. That's long gone, and Canelo's physique doesn't allow it unless he wants to walk in like a wrestler the way Vinnie Paz did looking like the Ultimate Warrior from the 80s.

[Boxing Goat]

NSB poll results? Lmao.

I already proved you DKSAB and only know men’s **** sizes lol.

Go suck the venom out of Canelos snake, butthurt f@ggot. :bukkake:

I'm embarrassed for you at this point. Everyone here knows you're an idiot but keep this going. Sometimes, every so often I run across someone so special it's amusing. This is fun

[Murderopolis]

LOL no.

Crawford doesn't have the frame to go all the way up there.

Its questionable if he can even handle a big WW like Spence.

Crawford is an excellent fighter, but there is a reason there are weight classes.

[Boxing Goat]

Yes, 177 is actually a conservative measure since he weighed that much during a training camp, which means he likely lost weight just to get to 177 at that point.

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Interesting. But still, he started his career at 130 and Canelo started his at 147. And Canelo was only 16. That tells me that either way, Canelo is a lot bigger man and besides an all time great smaller man like Floyd beating a greener Canelo, a smaller man will not get it done.

[Boxing Goat]

LOL no.

Crawford doesn't have the frame to go all the way up there.

Its questionable if he can even handle a big WW like Spence.

Crawford is an excellent fighter, but there is a reason there are weight classes.

But wait!.............

O Prophet disagrees with you!

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[GhostofDempsey]

Interesting. But still, he started his career at 130 and Canelo started his at 147. And Canelo was only 16. That tells me that either way, Canelo is a lot bigger man and besides an all time great smaller man like Floyd beating a greener Canelo, a smaller man will not get it done.

I agree. I think Canelo's work to the body would be too much for Bud.