This Duck Is Beyond ShameFul

[rickJen]

You’re not a true boxing fan it’s as simple as that.

Klitschko was ten times more popular than this Wilder personality.
Yet we never heard any single negotiation detail about his fight with Joshua.
Fight just happened.
Not with this Deontay clown, who the media didn't even recognize when he went to the white house.
That's why I;ve been so perpetually pissed at this Klitschko ducker.
And I have yet to see karma befall (boxing-related) on this undeserving clown.

[uppercut510]

AJ readily fought and beat Klitschko.
Wilder avoided Wlad like a plague.
Go figure who is the real duck.

what exactly does that have to do with aj turning down 50mil?

[rickJen]

what exactly does that have to do with aj turning down 50mil?

What?! Klitschko is exactly why Joshua's A side position was cemented.
Wilder ducked Klitschko. Meaning, ducking have consequences.
It's shameful.
And what is the relevance of $50 mil now, tell me.
AJ opted to turn it down in favor of having the fight in the UK.
Explain to me what's wrong with that?
As opposed to the B side, who is currently making less than $2 mil,
having a shot at multiple titles,
and turning down $15 mil.

[koolkc107]

What?! Klitschko is exactly why Joshua's A side position was cemented.
Wilder ducked Klitschko. Meaning, ducking have consequences.
It's shameful.
And what is the relevance of $50 mil now, tell me.
AJ opted to turn it down in favor of having the fight in the UK.
Explain to me what's wrong with that?
As opposed to the B side, who is currently making less than $2 mil,
having a shot at multiple titles,
and turning down $15 mil.

A Klitschko that hadn't fought for 1 and a half years, coming off a loss that was one of the most boring fights on history, and who hadn't looked like himself in over 2 and a half years didn't cement anything.

Wilder did not duck Wlad, Wlad chose AJ INSTEAD OF Wilder because in his opinion it was an easier fight that paid more. And BTW, he was right. Folks always point to the statements Finkel made after Wilder won his belt as indicative of Wilder ducking, while ignoring EVERYTHING that came out of Wilder and his camp afterwards.

The 50M is relevant because it is the largest verified purse ever turned down in the history of the sport.

The 50M is relevant because it was still on the table up until about 36 hours ago.

The 50M is relevant because AJ and Hearn turned it down while simultaneously considering a US fight vs Big Baby.

And finally, the 50M is relevant not because AJ turned it down to fight at home, but because he turned it down to fight in the UK against SOMEONE ELSE.

There was never any serious intent to fight Wilder and the offers themselves AND the way Matchroom did the "now you see me, now you don't" style of negotiation bear witness to that.

AJ can continue to make his 15 to 20 million fighting stiffs.
I suspect he and Hearn will learn about an economic principle called "The Law of Diminishing Returns"

Shame too.

Sometimes, protecting a guy too much can keep him from becoming the great fighter he was supposed to be...

[koolkc107]

Green K sent...

Appreciated!

[rickJen]

A Klitschko that hadn't fought for 1 and a half years, coming off a loss that was one of the most boring fights on history, and who hadn't looked like himself in over 2 and a half years didn't cement anything.

That's what's disgusting about it.
Finkel: "My baby Deontay won't be rushed to fight Klitschko."
Finkel was talking as if Klitsch was in his prime.
Kills me.

[koolkc107]

That's what's disgusting about it.
Finkel: "My baby Deontay won't be rushed to fight Klitschko."
Finkel was talking as if Klitsch was in his prime.
Kills me.

Not as disgusting as latching on to that single statement from Finkel as "proof" Wilder ducked.

Try this one, made Nov. 10, 2015 (about 3 weeks before Fury's upset win):

"If it was tomorrow, I could beat him," Wilder recently told Forbes. "I've improved so much since 2012, and he's declining. He's getting older. He's not going to be the same as he was. We know each other, and I know how to beat him. I know what it takes. He doesn't have as much energy as I do. I'm the toughest, the strongest and the fastest heavyweight he's faced."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat.../#6ba8b551fea3

You need to post something more than Finkel's statement because if it is about what folks say, then you should be listening to Wilder himself.

Wlad was on Deontay's menu almost immediately after he won his belt. Here's postfight comments by Wilder right after the first Stiverne fight:

[rickJen]

Not as disgusting as latching on to that single statement from Finkel as "proof" Wilder ducked.

Try this one, made Nov. 10, 2015 (about 3 weeks before Fury's upset win):

"If it was tomorrow, I could beat him," Wilder recently told Forbes. "I've improved so much since 2012, and he's declining. He's getting older. He's not going to be the same as he was. We know each other, and I know how to beat him. I know what it takes. He doesn't have as much energy as I do. I'm the toughest, the strongest and the fastest heavyweight he's faced."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkat.../#6ba8b551fea3

You need to post something more than Finkel's statement because if it is about what folks say, then you should be listening to Wilder himself.

Wlad was on Deontay's menu almost immediately after he won his belt. Here's postfight comments by Wilder right after the first Stiverne fight:

Well, the fight didn't happen did it?
Funniest part was Klitsch and Wilder share the same manager.
It would have happened a long time ago.
Especially when Klitsch wanted so much to fight in the US.

[koolkc107]

Well, the fight didn't happen did it?
Funniest part was Klitsch and Wilder share the same manager.
It would have happened a long time ago.
Especially when Klitsch wanted so much to fight in the US.

Just because a fight you want to happen didn't happen doesn't mean it is a duck.

A duck needs a legit and objectively fair verified offer being turned down.

That's not what happened between Wlad and Deontay.

[uppercut510]

What?! Klitschko is exactly why Joshua's A side position was cemented.
Wilder ducked Klitschko. Meaning, ducking have consequences.
It's shameful.
And what is the relevance of $50 mil now, tell me.
AJ opted to turn it down in favor of having the fight in the UK.
Explain to me what's wrong with that?
As opposed to the B side, who is currently making less than $2 mil,
having a shot at multiple titles,
and turning down $15 mil.

fury already beat klits, it was a decent win but much overated around here. im not sure what it has to do with aj turning down 50 million AFTER HE ASKED FOR IT. and making all these road blocks (fight whyte first, 50 mill, in the uk, flat rate, proof of funds, etc). as a fan you should just want to see the fight, who makes what is of no importance. hearn never wanted this fight next, without hearn aj would have took the 50mil and the fight would be signed, i dont thin aj is scared but hes clearly been silenced by hearn since he said GIVE ME 50mil. the contract hearn sent had no date, showtime wasnt in the picture, hearn wanted control of the ref and the judges and only a rematch if AJ loses, would you sign that? BE HONEST AND FAIR... would u? please stop bringing up wilder only making 2mil. lets focus on aj wilder NOW and how hearn ducked this fight for business reasons and you fans are defending it as if business benefits you as a fan.