Deontay wilder ducked klitschko, but anthony joshua's a "coward"??? Lmao!!!

[BirdSong]

If I was, you'd have pointed out flaws in my argument. Since you couldn't, you ignored my entire post and attacked me instead. Should have done the honorable thing and just admitted I was right since you were unable to counter anything I said.

Flaws in your argument!! Most of it is just makey upey stuff.

I mean Wilder, come on the guy is almost a 30 fight vet aged almost 30, hes in the klits era and as soon as big klit retires its, heeerrrss Deontey!!

He wins a belt and immediately his manager is telling us hes not ready for little Klit!! lol right off the bat, this is old vlad who they are queuing up to fight.

I'm not a huge joshua fan but hes what, 20 fights in, how many titles and fought little klit. You need a dose of reality i think, get that head out of the clouds!! Thats a duck, not marination, a duck.

There is no guarantee that wilder would have changed his tune in 2016, 2017 or whenever, none, its all speculation

[rickJen]

Wlad was looking to fight in the States and Finkel, who actually worked with K2 at the time, ruled out Wilder as the opponent:

“Look, Wilder is a baby winning the title. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”

Wilder was 33-0 and the WBC champion when Finkel came out with that crap. 10 months later Tyson Fury, 26 years old and 24-0, went to Germany and beat Wlad on his own turf.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

It was a blatent duck.

That right there in the bold is a revelation.
That's why I dislike these opportunistic clowns very much.
They're even worse than Adonis Stevenson and his team.

[rickJen]

I'm absolutely sure Wlad would have dropped him like a rag doll.
Just like in their sparring session.

[N/A]

There is no guarantee that wilder would have changed his tune in 2016, 2017 or whenever, none, its all speculation

Not speculation. Finkel set up a major article in late 2015 to build the Klitschko vs. Wilder fight for 2016 and Wilder was interviewed extensively about his passionate desire to face Klitschko in 2016.

The wheels were in motion. Finkel just needed to get Klitschko's HBO deal fulfilled so he could take him to Showtime for the huge PPV with Wilder.

Fury winning ruined everything. But Klitschko, Wilder, Finkel & Espinoza were all on board for a Showtime PPV in the Fall of 2016. If Klitschko had beaten Fury, he would have owed HBO one fight in the Spring of 2016 and then when have been free to jump to Showtime to fight Wilder.

Finkel managed both fighters and had everything to gain by a massive in house fight where he controlled both sides. To suggest Wilder wasn't on board is ridiculous. Finkel was the one in early 2015 downplaying the fight, saying Widler needed time, etc, because his master plan was for the fight to be in 2016.

[N/A]

Lol .. didn't read your argument. There's a limit to the amount of time I can waste at this place.

yes yes run from the facts as fast as you can...

[BirdSong]

Not speculation. Finkel set up a major article in late 2015 to build the Klitschko vs. Wilder fight for 2016 and Wilder was interviewed extensively about his passionate desire to face Klitschko in 2016.

The wheels were in motion. Finkel just needed to get Klitschko's HBO deal fulfilled so he could take him to Showtime for the huge PPV with Wilder.

Fury winning ruined everything. But Klitschko, Wilder, Finkel & Espinoza were all on board for a Showtime PPV in the Fall of 2016. If Klitschko had beaten Fury, he would have owed HBO one fight in the Spring of 2016 and then when have been free to jump to Showtime to fight Wilder.

Finkel managed both fighters and had everything to gain by a massive in house fight where he controlled both sides. To suggest Wilder wasn't on board is ridiculous. Finkel was the one in early 2015 downplaying the fight, saying Widler needed time, etc, because his master plan was for the fight to be in 2016.

Yes you are right of course, the wheels have been set in motion for wilder, its not his fault he fell out of the bus, he was pushed. Its furys fault, no its hearns, its joshuas, its all so close for wilder, but all so far away. Wilder had chances to fight kilts, he could have done what fury did and others but he didnt. Klit was there for the taking, hell even crazy ass fury could see that!!! You have one hell of a boxing imagination, you must have visions of this stuff, marinator

[SuperSuperLeeds]

Only if AJ blatantly and overtly ducked him too. Because Wilder & AJ were both put on the same path. Get in a couple quick defenses and then look for a big fight the next year. You call Wilder's path a duck because his manager was honest about the plan and you say nothing about AJ's path because his promoter was smart enough not to be honest.

I hear that, soooooo if you just factor in each fighters number of fights at the time into the equation = WILDERS A BIT*H. and now hes talking about his aim is to get to 51-0 lol this guy is a fraud mate, he fought cruiserweights and bums getting ko's and now he's gonna try steal the legendary undefeated record fighting more bums. bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmsquaddddddd. Wilder only got his confidence to fight someone decent in his last fight, damn. AJ had about 15 learning fights then straight to business

[BirdSong]

I hear that, soooooo if you just factor in each fighters number of fights at the time into the equation = WILDERS A BIT*H. and now hes talking about his aim is to get to 51-0 lol this guy is a fraud mate, he fought cruiserweights and bums getting ko's and now he's gonna try steal the legendary undefeated record fighting more bums. bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmsquaddddddd. Wilder only got his confidence to fight someone decent in his last fight, damn. AJ had about 15 learning fights then straight to business

Ah thats unfair, wilder had about 30 learning fights too and at the end he learned very well how to avoid klitschkos, he was only a baby, just 2 more fights and he will be perfect, then maybe 1 more ish, or maybe not, next year will be the year, promise, now the kilts are gone

[N/A]

Wilder had chances to fight kilts

When? When were these chances? You're living in an alternate timeline.

[BirdSong]

When? When were these chances? You're living in an alternate timeline.

he could have fought vitali for his title if he wanted to, he could have fought vlad for his titles if he wanted to, what are u on about?

and dont say he was a novice and couldnt have done either, he could have easily but he didnt