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  • ukbox
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    #31
    Originally posted by animelive
    Joshua has plenty of options. I don't see how that will work out for Wilder. Povetkin, Fury, Bellew fights earn Joshua quite the fortune. Whether you like it or not, he is an extremely popular boxer. Wilder has unfortunately failed to promote himself to such level.
    Fury wont be Hearn's bïtch so you can cross his name off unless hearn's handing over 50%

    Bellew vs Joshua?
    You AJ fans are easily pleased. Who'd be the favourite to win that?

    Povetkin then its a whyte rematch if he doesnt get beat by Parker

    Wow!
    Oh & he'll fill a stadium?
    So do most football teams but they'd get gubbed playing a quality team

    Wilder has 2 top 5 ranked names on his resume

    AJ has none, wlad was semi retired & held no ranking. He'd been dethroned by the gypsy king

    Shyte was nobody..he was domestic level

    Who are we left with on AJs record?

    Give me 2 top 5 fighters that AJ has faced & when they held that ranking

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    • j0zef
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      #32
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
      I know. But that's how you treat a ****en coward.
      Come on, depending on which side you are you're gonna call the other guy a coward. I don't really care whose camp you're in. Neither guy is afraid of each other, AJ fought Wlad who was a more dangerous fighter, and Wilder fought Oritz, who was dangerous and didn't pay even close to what Joshua will.


      Asking for more money is absolutely the wrong thing to do here. Hearn is probably just fine marinating the fight for a year. Wilder has absolutely no leverage and is the one getting older. Golovkin made all the concessions to Canelo the first time. The only reason he was able to dictate some terms the 2nd time was because Canelo's image was in tatters.

      If Wilder asks for 40%, Hearn will simply say "that's not even close, you're an idiot and you're pricing yourself out. We're moving on". And Wilder ends up with absolutely nothing until he's 35-36, at which point a 30 year old AJ will easily beat past his prime Wilder.

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        #33
        Originally posted by j0zef
        Come on, depending on which side you are you're gonna call the other guy a coward. I don't really care whose camp you're in. Neither guy is afraid of each other, AJ fought Wlad who was a more dangerous fighter, and Wilder fought Oritz, who was dangerous and didn't pay even close to what Joshua will.


        Asking for more money is absolutely the wrong thing to do here. Hearn is probably just fine marinating the fight for a year. Wilder has absolutely no leverage and is the one getting older. Golovkin made all the concessions to Canelo the first time. The only reason he was able to dictate some terms the 2nd time was because Canelo's image was in tatters.

        If Wilder asks for 40%, Hearn will simply say "that's not even close, you're an idiot and you're pricing yourself out. We're moving on". And Wilder ends up with absolutely nothing until he's 35-36, at which point a 30 year old AJ will easily beat past his prime Wilder.
        The UK audience while filled with casuals won't buy into cerebral boxing
        The klitschko method won't sell to the masses
        AJ can keep taking other fights & building his fortune but what it will come down to is AJ will have to give Wilder 50% now.
        Eventually the casual audience will say just pay wilder what he wants. They will be aware of how much Joshua has earned

        This has backfired on matchroom. They would have got away with it but Canelo paying GGG when he's younger & has faced more p4p than AJ ever will. It will come back to haunt AJ & Wilder

        Wilder is likely to continue his ko streak & be in exciting fights. Its looking like rematches over old ground for AJ after his next fight.
        See how long that sells
        We know Fury won't be dictated to. We've seen how AJ has already adopted a more cautious style of fighting. Parker type performances won't impress his casual fanbase

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          #34
          Originally posted by Raggamuffin
          or no fight.

          Now Wilder and his team don’t have to play the numbers game anymore.

          Wilder should say, “You don’t give me 40% **** you”!!!

          He doesn’t need Joshua. Wilder has proven to the world that Femi is a ****en coward.
          Yep. I'd say the same thing. Green K.

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            #35
            Originally posted by j0zef
            Come on, depending on which side you are you're gonna call the other guy a coward. I don't really care whose camp you're in. Neither guy is afraid of each other, AJ fought Wlad who was a more dangerous fighter, and Wilder fought Oritz, who was dangerous and didn't pay even close to what Joshua will.


            Asking for more money is absolutely the wrong thing to do here. Hearn is probably just fine marinating the fight for a year. Wilder has absolutely no leverage and is the one getting older. Golovkin made all the concessions to Canelo the first time. The only reason he was able to dictate some terms the 2nd time was because Canelo's image was in tatters.

            If Wilder asks for 40%, Hearn will simply say "that's not even close, you're an idiot and you're pricing yourself out. We're moving on". And Wilder ends up with absolutely nothing until he's 35-36, at which point a 30 year old AJ will easily beat past his prime Wilder.
            Amen bro...

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            • Raggamuffin
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              #36
              Originally posted by j0zef
              Come on, depending on which side you are you're gonna call the other guy a coward. I don't really care whose camp you're in. Neither guy is afraid of each other, AJ fought Wlad who was a more dangerous fighter, and Wilder fought Oritz, who was dangerous and didn't pay even close to what Joshua will.


              Asking for more money is absolutely the wrong thing to do here. Hearn is probably just fine marinating the fight for a year. Wilder has absolutely no leverage and is the one getting older. Golovkin made all the concessions to Canelo the first time. The only reason he was able to dictate some terms the 2nd time was because Canelo's image was in tatters.

              If Wilder asks for 40%, Hearn will simply say "that's not even close, you're an idiot and you're pricing yourself out. We're moving on". And Wilder ends up with absolutely nothing until he's 35-36, at which point a 30 year old AJ will easily beat past his prime Wilder.
              He really wrote this lmao!!!


              Wilder doesn’t need Joshua anymore. Wilder makes his own money. I’m done debating about the coward. I’m here to call Joshua a ****en coward. Joshua is a ****en coward.

              Wilder fits in with most other boxers in terms of what they’re paid. He has done his part to make the fight.

              40 percent or no fight.

              I wouldn’t have given Joshua 50 mil for a fight in the states but he wanted to be the undisputed hvw champ. It didn’t work out. The stiff coward didn’t want to fight. Move on...

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                #37
                Originally posted by travestyny
                Yep. I'd say the same thing. Green K.
                Trav they strung the guy along and then the promoter says, the offer is still there lmao. 40% or no fight. Let them chase Wilder and call him a coward.

                He doesn’t need Wilder ole ****** and Wilder doesn’t need him. The world knows who is scared of who.

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                • Jubei
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                  #38
                  Wilder is a hypejob, a nobody compared to AJ when it comes to ticketsales and fanbase, with a trash resume on top. 40 fights, one belt, one decent opponent who was on high blood pressure and way past it.

                  I am not even a Joshua fan, i could care less about the fight. The HW division is GARBAGE and you guys hype up the fight because an african american is involved, otherwise you would call Wilder the biggest hypejob in the sport.

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                  • Boxingfan8888
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ukbox
                    The UK audience while filled with casuals won't buy into cerebral boxing
                    The klitschko method won't sell to the masses
                    AJ can keep taking other fights & building his fortune but what it will come down to is AJ will have to give Wilder 50% now.
                    Eventually the casual audience will say just pay wilder what he wants. They will be aware of how much Joshua has earned

                    This has backfired on matchroom. They would have got away with it but Canelo paying GGG when he's younger & has faced more p4p than AJ ever will. It will come back to haunt AJ & Wilder

                    Wilder is likely to continue his ko streak & be in exciting fights. Its looking like rematches over old ground for AJ after his next fight.
                    See how long that sells
                    We know Fury won't be dictated to. We've seen how AJ has already adopted a more cautious style of fighting. Parker type performances won't impress his casual fanbase
                    Who is this ******

                    Wilder has the worst resume ever and is a joke compared to even Joshua’s

                    Parker beats wilder and Wilde dis scared to death of whyte which we know

                    Lmao wilder and exciting fights , pathetic little nut hugger

                    It’s people like you That allowed wilder to duck wlad and Joshua


                    Wlad beats wilder right now too

                    You can keep dreaming about splits all you want

                    Eventually a mando will knock wilder out

                    Ortiz was close but the ref saved wilderby giving him extra one

                    Times ticking for wilder and he needs to cash out

                    Wilder can keep fighting the George Washington’s of this world but that’s why his reputation is in the gutter

                    Only a few idiots like you back him pretending to be from the uk

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Wilder after this fiasco should ask for 40 percent...
                      or no fight.


                      Now Wilder and his team don’t have to play the numbers game anymore.

                      Wilder should say, “You don’t give me 40% **** you”!!!

                      He doesn’t need Joshua. Wilder has proven to the world that Femi is a ****en coward.
                      ... and no fight it is: I don't think Hearn intends to let AJ take this fight yet (if ever)... they have other easier options...

                      Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                      If I were Wilder I’d just do me. No sense in chasing this dude. Wilder should make enough money to be comfortable with or without Joshua.
                      ... Wilder should go his own way, but who isn't tempted by a big money fight?

                      Originally posted by animelive
                      Joshua has plenty of options. I don't see how that will work out for Wilder. Povetkin, Fury, Bellew fights earn Joshua quite the fortune. Whether you like it or not, he is an extremely popular boxer. Wilder has unfortunately failed to promote himself to such level.
                      ... AJ really has the option for weaker opponents and still big money...

                      Originally posted by j0zef
                      Come on, depending on which side you are you're gonna call the other guy a coward. I don't really care whose camp you're in. Neither guy is afraid of each other, AJ fought Wlad who was a more dangerous fighter, and Wilder fought Oritz, who was dangerous and didn't pay even close to what Joshua will.


                      Asking for more money is absolutely the wrong thing to do here. Hearn is probably just fine marinating the fight for a year. Wilder has absolutely no leverage and is the one getting older. Golovkin made all the concessions to Canelo the first time. The only reason he was able to dictate some terms the 2nd time was because Canelo's image was in tatters.

                      If Wilder asks for 40%, Hearn will simply say "that's not even close, you're an idiot and you're pricing yourself out. We're moving on". And Wilder ends up with absolutely nothing until he's 35-36, at which point a 30 year old AJ will easily beat past his prime Wilder.
                      ... something like this...

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