Comments Thread For: Joshua-Wilder Can Happen On April 13 At Wembley, Says Hearn

[Fabes88]

I’m really enjoying the butthurt in this comment section

[Scipio2009]

I don't get people who are posting stuff like this. Yeah it's understandable to be p*ssed off that the fight isn't next, but it's not as if Joshua is ducking, it's a clear case of building the drama and building the fight.

There's an offer available to fight on April 13th - so how is there cowardice? It's pretty clear that both Wilder and Joshua want to fight. They're fighters. The promoters might be accused of ducking etc, but there's an offer on the table at this moment in time which I'm sure Wilder will sign.

Deontay Wilder put forward an offer, for the fight to be in Las Vegas for $50m against 50% of the event, for October/November and folks here were ****ting on the offer for pushing the fight so far from March.

Eddie Hearn redoes the offer (upping the money from $12.5m to $15m), pencils in his own date for October/November ('Anthony can't fight Wilder with a short camp') and folks here have no problem with it.

The fight basically has the final terms agreed, and Eddie Hearn not only now moves back the Wilder fight another 5 months, but also now chooses to take a fight in the same September month that he initially claimed Joshua couldn't possibly be ready for.

If the plan was to take the Povetkin fight first, be honest with the people and go with that plan from the start; "No worries, the Wilder fight definitely intrigues us, but we're going to settle this mandatory first and then kick Wilder's behind".

Instead, we had to endure Eddie Hearn talking about the UK having all of the money, watching Wilder's camp prove that the money is in the US (with Hearn agreeing that the money was in the US), to then talking about the fight having to be in the UK for the game, to then slow-walking the final contracts, and then watching the fight completely collapse within days of a likely final agreement.

[Scipio2009]

Why should he not sign?

$15m in April... more money than God when he knocks Joshua out.

Wilder's the B side through his own management team's fault. They should have been the ones to fight Klitschko and put themselves in the driving seat of the heavyweight division but they didn't. They let a guy with much less experience come along and steal a march on them.

Given that they allowed this to happen and they are now the B side they cannot be expected to have everything go their way. If they are confident of winning, which they should be, they should take this opportunity to put themselves in the position that they should be in - at the top of the division. To do that they have to knock Joshua out but first of all they have to get him in the ring. How do they get him in the ring? Sign the contract. If they create a contract then AJ will have to fight or be in breach of contract (Hearn and AJ won't allow that to happen, trust me)

So many of y'all saying that Wilder shouldn't sign, because Hearn's a liar or whatnot, it's straight up cuck talk. Sign the fight. Win the fight. YOU'VE GOT HEARN WHERE YOU WANT HIM RIGHT NOW. DON'T LET HIM OFF THE HOOK BY WALKING AWAY FROM THIS.

No one's gonna give a **** how much Wilder got paid in the split for the first fight if he goes on to beat AJ in a rematch for 50/50 and goes on to rule the division. They've got the contract now, Hearn has said that they can use the same contract and insert the date and the venue. Forget about the rematch clause, have some balls and back the fact that they will win and sign the contract as it is. If they ask for changes to the contract Hearn is legally entitled to walk away from the deal because a counter-offer extinguishes the original offer. If they wait to sign then Hearn may be entitled to walk away because offers expire after a reasonable time has elapsed. Sign the contract as it is tomorrow and send it back to Hearn. Fight in April. Don't let your opportunity to rule the roost pass you by because you're waiting for the conditions to be perfect. Hearn is a POS, he's not going to give you anything out of charity.

Some people are starting to p*ss me off. Just sign the damn contract and fight, it's that simple.

Eddie Hearn has gone against his word, in arguably the most public negotiation that he's ever done in the history of his run.

With the terms now changed, there's no incentive for Wilder to hold up his own career on Joshua's terms.

Eddie Hearn will now move forward with the Povetkin fight; the world will get to see how Joshua-Povetkin does at Wembley compared to Klitschko, how Joshua-Povetkin does on Sky Box Office compared to Klitschko, and also, most importantly here, how a matinee airing on the DAZN app does against what Joshua was doing on Showtime.

And Deontay Wilder will have his own fight, likely against Dominic Breazeale, and he'll have his own metrics to look at; how does he draw in New York again compared to the Luis Ortiz fight, does he draw another 1m+ homes on Showtime (or a strong rating on CBS, if that ends up being the move), and how well does he draw on Sky Sports at 2am in the UK.

With new numbers to consider, the negotiation changes; $15m with Eddie Hearn dictating everything no longer makes sense. With the US TV now a deal point (Showtime vs DAZN), the next round of talks could get rough.

[Scipio2009]

Another thing, seems like Hearn is afraid of Wilder going to PPV and becoming the A side. Well, he has momentum, is appearing for other audiences and if he is well promoted they can make good numbers. Showtime certainly don't want this fight on Dazn.
Look at what I found: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianma.../#465ff18c19ca
And these numbers don't count the app

A nice find

[The plunger man]

He doesn’t admit it because he has f.ucking idiots for a fanbase that will believe anything. Team AJ is pathetic. Only to be outdone by the pathetic cum guzzlers that call themselves AJ’s fans.

My bird says to me my cum tastes salty......are you salty can you can taste salt in your mouth ? We now know the reason don't we lol.
F@ckin mug

[The plunger man]

Wilder fans are loosing the plot bigtime.
My life is good in 2018...party in amsterdam , world cup football and canelo vs golovkin and joshua vs povetkin in september and more terrence Crawford
Then 2019 more terrece crawford,lomas and april joshua vs wilder for the undisputed heavyweight championship at a blockbusting capacity of 90k wembley stadium.
Life is sweet as a ******* honeypot

[Redgloveman]

You're trying too hard. I think you are being unrealistic and bias. What part of Wilde wanted to fight Joshua NEXT as in not in April are you not understanding? Why would Wilder possibly sign a contract for a flat fee, no rematch clause for him, fight in the UK, for a fight all the way in April of 2019 when the fight would make significantly more at that time? You sound like Hearns lawyer or something with these long @$$ essays you are writing. Open your mind. Look at both sides. You failing miserably at trying to appear unbias. Just a FYI

Why should Wilder care if the fight is next or not?

He's been chasing this fight for over a year. Is he gonna throw it away because he doesn't get it exactly how he wants? If so he's being mismanaged.

He was happy to fight Whyte if Joshua was guaranteed (i.e. not fight Joshua next) as recently as a couple of months ago.

My posts are long because I actually have something to say that needs explaining. I think you're saying I'm on Hearn's side because you don't like that I'm not buying into the Wilder narrative and (worst of all) what I'm saying actually makes sense.

In answer to your question, why would Wilder sign now when the fight will be worth more later? The risk is clearly worth the reward; I already alluded to this in my post but you apparently didn't read it particularly thoroughly. When Wilder wins that fight he has a license to print money, so he should take the opportunity whilst it's available. I'm not saying he's ducking if he doesn't, I'm saying he's mismanaged if he doesn't.

[BLASTER1]

Oh is that right Hearn you will allows us the fans to get this fight next year.
Wow should we be rolling out the red carpet for you.
You are a disgrace Hearn.

[harry-greb]

It was always gonna happen in April next year. With the canelo fight in September, it would have to be in November and Cardiff is the only stadium in Britain that could hold the fight in winter.
Hearn has always wanted it in Wembley and what eddie wants, eddie gets.

[bigjavi973]

Last night supposedly.

The offer is $5 million for Wilder to fight anyone of his choice this fall in any U.S. venue Wilder chooses and a fight with Joshua for $15 million April 13th at Wembley Stadium.

It's a proposed $20 million dollar offer in total.

But something tells me this will drag on longer. Though I am hopeful and have a feeling that the fight will finally happen April 13th.

so they never even denied changing up the contract that wilder is talking about typical hearn