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Kelly Pavlik: If Khan Had A Better Chin He's Easily The P4P #1 !

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Lazakill View Post
    Khan has one of the lowest ring IQ's? One of the stupidest posts ive ever seen on this site.
    Way to back up your argument bro,

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post

      Amir Khan boxed a beautiful 3 rounds against Alvarez before his focus left and he fell back onto his bad habits; Alvarez took a bit of time, put Khan out of position in a trap, and left him for dead in the ring.
      Canelo started doing things different, setting traps.

      Khan is 1-dimensional so its expected for him to do well early in fights...hes always the faster fighter.

      He doesn't make adjustments which is why even journeymen have been able to time him.

      The only thing Khan could be argued to best ever at is talking about himself in 3rd person.

      He does nothing in boxing well. Nothing. He doesn't even do speed well. Always 1 speed. Even if that speed is lightning it's a bad approach.

      Khan is a prized amateur who didnt succeed in the pros because he doesn't have a "boxing brain". Doesn't understand counters/adjustments...always got by with speed.

      Thank his trainers and limited mental capacity for that

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      • #33
        Nah canelo was on PEDs and much heavier than khan, plus khan took that fight without even having a tune up at the weight.. that fight doesnt even count anymore because of canelo drug cheating..khan would have prolly beat him anyway if it was a clean fight, even with the huge weight disadvantage

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
          and if Malignaggi had Wilder's right hand he'd be the GOAT.
          not the same thing, pavlik isnt talking about adding offensive tools to khan..

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          • #35
            He's a dumb, limited fighter. There isn't any more to it.

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            • #36
              If Pavlik didn’t get clowned by Martinez, and stayed off the bottle and drugs, he could have made a great comeback.

              Now, he’d just get ****ed up bad. He mumbles when he speaks, so he’s had more that enough..

              He was a good fighter..

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              • #37
                The best P4P fighter in the world wouldn't lose focus and get nailed with clean with straight right hands like Khan does.... it's not a chin issue, it's a focus issue. He's not as good as he thinks he is. His ring IQ is too low, and he judges distance badly.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  No, because his boxing brain always has that moment where it tunes out, and that simple bit always leaves him in a scary spot. 4 camps in with working with Virgil Hunter, Amir Khan could only still barely stay on fight plan at 147lbs for about 8 rounds before things started to fall apart.

                  Amir Khan boxed a beautiful 3 rounds against Alvarez before his focus left and he fell back onto his bad habits; Alvarez took a bit of time, put Khan out of position in a trap, and left him for dead in the ring.

                  Amir Khan is arguably the best 4-round fighter to ever put on gloves; the main thing keeping him from being p4p anything is that championship fights are 12 rounds.

                  Once Khan falls into his pattern of marvelling at his own hand speed, he's there to be countered with hard shots for the rest of the fight, punch resistance or no punch resistance.

                  Just imagine how many sustained beatings Amir Khan would've already taken had he not had that hair-trigger chin, lol.
                  It's true that he does lose focus sometimes but most boxers do. Even Mayweather lost focus a number of times in both Maidana matches and ultimately didn't perform as well against an old shot-worn Maidana, as Khan did against a prime Maidana. So losing focus happens to even the perceived p4p #1, it doesn't really account for Khan's losses I think, apart from contributing towards the Canelo loss.

                  Canelo was likely on PEDs and was much heavier than Khan who was in his first fight 2 divisions up with no tune up against one of the best at the weight. Similar to, for example, Marquez going up 2 divisions from 135 to face Floyd with no tune up. Marquez was completely dominated, but most peeps had Khan winning the Canelo fight before he got caught by someone much heavier and who punches much harder than Floyd.

                  It's true in the Garcia fight Khan was finding it too easy that he got lulled into a false sense of security and thought his speed was just too much for Garcia to handle. Worst performance imo, he trained himself for that fight (Roach was in Philippines training Pac) and he kept throwing the exact same jab uppercut combo from round 1 again and again, making him extremely predictable. I'd say a lot of B+ fighters time and beat Khan on that particular night. Warning signs were seen in sparring footage recorded before the fight - Khan was throwing that exact same combo, getting timed and hit clean by an average sparring partner. But, he didn't have a trainer there to correct his mistakes so he practised it so much that he took that jab uppercut combo all the way into the fight, used it non-stop and Garcia figured out the predictable timing quickly. Khan was in a rage too because of the pre-fight racism so his boxing IQ went out the window, which is what Angel Garcia wanted to happen.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BO$$NELO View Post
                    Agreed. Kelly was punch drunk...again.
                    Not punch drunk. Just drunk.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by WhatDisButtonDo View Post
                      And if my aunt had wheels she'd be a bike.
                      She don't need no wheels.

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