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Golovkin has reigned as the best MW in the world for several years. I've never had him in my top 3 P4P, but he is very good and has probably earned a spot around the #4 or #5 mark for a while now.
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top MW (joint with LMW Canelo), top three P4P.Last edited by DreamFighter; 06-27-2018, 10:10 AM.Comment
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Clown, you didn't just say that. You implied I might be lying about the Ward quote and you wanted proof. I said I'd get it but to put up your account. That was all I offered and yes it was a "for sure bet". You didn't take the bet. I did not claim I won a bet, because the offer was never accepted. That's that.
The comment about you being a hater came before the bet offer. As I said everyone who follows this forums or boxing knows where lil g comes from. You are the first person I have ever seen use lil g and it is simply referring to his size and you had no clue that it was used derogatorily. Still weird to me but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I guess you have never been on a Golovkin thread where the term is used frequently by his haters. I do not know if you are a hater or impartial. The assumption was based on the lil g term which I have already explained. You may or may not be.
There is really nothing else to talk about on the matter but I'm sure you will find something else to babble about related to the bet or hater.Comment
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Very highly.Comment
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I agree. But there isn't really much to say. You believe the 33 year old guy (Cotto) was a bigger challenge than Golovkin. Cotto's last 7 previous fights to Martinez:
TKO Delvin Rodriguez 154
LUD Austin Trout 154
LUD F. Mayweather 154
TKO A. Margarito 154 (who was not elite, no longer using loaded gloves and had been beat up in two of his last three fight)
TKO Mayorga 154 (no where near elite)
TKO Yuri Foreman 154 (no comment necessary)
LTKO Pacquiao 147 (Cotto was blown out)
You believe that guy above was more of a challenge than a true unbeaten MW who had not only won by KO'd his last 15 plus opponents. A fighter with a highly successful amateur career.
Go ahead and believe it, it is your opinion. I am pretty confident that my opinion was held by the overwhelming majority of people who actually covered and know boxing. If you need belts to tell you who is good and who isn't than so be it. BTW I believe Golovkin was also the WBA champion and the number one contender. Cotto brought money, that is the reason he got the fight.
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hell yeh the evidence says that a 33 year old multiweight titlist is a bigger challenger than an ibo titlist whose best win is...matthew macklin, a basic stay busy challenger for sergio in his title days.
why would I need to "go ahead and believe" facts that are in my faovour. YOU need to go and believe that an IBO titlist whose best win is Macklin (a sergio staybusy) is considered a better opponent than a multiweight titlist. You need to believe, it hard.Last edited by DreamFighter; 06-27-2018, 10:10 AM.Comment
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na you read that wrong entirely.
See, the fault was yours from the beginning, the truth is out, no wonder I was mislead. Why would I want proof when I wasnt in denial of it. Dunno where you are going with this, noone wants proof of someone saying something of non relevance...you've already admitted i dont see it as an insult, so I'd never seek proof that he made it as a disparaging comment.
You need to be coherent in what you are saying- either you think I am disparaging when i say lil G o r not..and if you dont think I am, then I wouldnt be trying to prove Ward used it disparagingly, would I? aha. thats why I think you are telling fibs, your story doesnt make sense.
but if you truely made this error in good faith, no worries.Last edited by DreamFighter; 06-27-2018, 10:16 AM.Comment
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You sound like a casual fan. That's fine. People who know boxing knew Golovkin was the bigger challenge. Martinez even knew it.
I made my case. You keep throwing out mult-weight like that carries weight for an entire career. Winning at 147lbs years before means that you are more worthy than the number one contender at 160lbs? Your basis for how good a fighter Golovkin is by referring to his IBO title (though you fail to mention his WBA title and also being the number one contender). You are actually laughably ridiculous. But again it is an opinion. One that I am confident anyone who knows boxing knows is silly. Again if Golovkin decided to fight Pac vs. a guy like Charlo you should be saying that Pac is a tougher challenge. LOL!Comment
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nothing you said clears up your earlier incoherence- namely as I said that you think I am using "lil G innocently YET you claim I deny ward used it disparagingly. Those two views are completely incongruent, YOu cant hold both these clashing opinions about me, they fully contradict the existence of the other.
Thus I remain unconvinced of your sincerity, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt this once, maybe you just made a mistake.Last edited by DreamFighter; 06-27-2018, 11:13 AM.Comment
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I'm actually not bothering reading about this part of the topic anymore. I laid it out pretty simple even for a simpleton such as yourself to understand but you can't or don't want to for whatever reason. Your intelligence is obviously on the lower end of the spectrum so at some point engaging the slow witted as you have demonstrated is a waste of time.Comment
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