Gennady Golovkin Legacy

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  • DreamFighter
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    #161
    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
    Here's two words for you, man.

    Dumb. Ass.

    I've never advocated counting two titles from one sanctioning org simultaneously. My rules are simple: you count the world title as the premier title unless there is an incumbent Super champion, in which case he/she is the fighter regarded as champion.

    Can you explain your set of rules in a simple sentence? Best I can tell yours goes something like: You count the Super title sometimes and other times you count the World title, but not if your name starts with G and you come from Kazakhstan. Have I got that about right?

    You ready to put this ish to the poll yet? You seem quite convinced you're putting up a strong argument here - shall we see what everyone else thinks?
    depends if you are putting the poll up in this world or another world.

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    • Citizen Koba
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      #162
      Originally posted by DreamFighter
      depends if you are putting the poll up in this world or another world.
      Seriously man? Do they not have the phrase 'flogging a dead horse' where you come from?

      Ah well. I'm done. It's up to you how you figure that ****. Myself I'll stick with the method I already explained, and that's the one I think most sensible people are going for.

      You want to take up your otherworldly weirdness, perhaps you should take it to the WBA since they're the ones claiming both titles count towards the number of title defenses.



      I gather they pride themselves on being approachable so I'm sure they'll be able to give you a rational explanation of their workings. They'll probably even agree to change their rules if you agree to slip 'em $500k in unmarked bills..
      Last edited by Citizen Koba; 06-19-2018, 05:39 PM.

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      • Diego Rodriguez
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        #163
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        --- Highest regard for both Gennady and Canelo, but at the end of the day, Gennady blinked first over a few ninnygrams of a substance in the Mexican food chain.

        He lost out on at least $20 million payday and had to come crawling back to Golden Boy after his diva snitfit with all the bad things said about Canelo, except now for this fight, the playing field has evened up with Canelo now having access to BALCO VADA Vic's drugcheat vitamins same as Golovkin...Can't make this stuff up boys...you and VADA and Vic and Vegas ruining boxing...only in boxing!
        Doesn't sound like Golovkin came crawling back at all. Said 50/50, dropped to 45% and said not a penny less. Was willing to fight Saunders in August. GBP is the one who was super intent on making the fight (and I'm glad). Golovkin delayed payday but in the end he is getting a much bigger percentage than May fight.

        Seen a lot of PEDs over my years. Don't buy the athletes and I didn't know BS. Canelo had every telltale sign physically that I've seen of PED users and I don't believe it was just a freak coincidence he got caught. Occam's Razor tells me he was up to something. Tested early and BAM! But that's the past and time to turn a new page.

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        • DreamFighter
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          #164
          Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
          Seriously man? Do they not have the phrase 'flogging a dead horse' where you come from?
          they do in my world too

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          • BO$$NELO
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            #165
            Originally posted by animelive
            Jokes on you, I don't even live in the U.S This forum contains some of the dumbest dudes I have seen. Implying that GGG has no legacy is being dishonest to yourself. His income is absolutely related to the work he has put into MW division, slowly building up his resume and finally getting the marquee fights. JCCC jr has failed every test and big challenge that he has faced. He had many opportunities to make his father's legacy and his own nationality work his way. His potential earning was surely over the roof but he has failed to materialize it and that too is correlated to his failing legacy.

            Suggesting that either of Loma and Crawford is even close to GGG's level of their career is laughable. Crawford specially, has completely failed in establishing a fanbase. End of the day, a star boxer like GGG will be remembered. Larry from Alabama's opinion matters not. You may look at it in a way where he has fought very few champions but others have a different perspective and realize that he shook, reignited and ruled an og division like middleweight. One's legacy is judged and legitimized by the masses because determining how difficult the challenges he faced will always be subjective.
            Trump gonna put a travel ban on your ****** kind. Either that or get tariff'd BOY.

            Dumb trash says Loma/Crawford legacies are less than Golovkin bc Gennady set to earn $25 million in September. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH LEGACY?!?

            Hey BOY - McGregor fought boxing ONCE - made $100 million...better legacy than 99%fighters than, right?!?!?

            LMFAOOOOO...damn IMMIGRANT CUCK

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            • animelive
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              #166
              Originally posted by BO$$NELO
              Trump gonna put a travel ban on your ****** kind. Either that or get tariff'd BOY.

              Dumb trash says Loma/Crawford legacies are less than Golovkin bc Gennady set to earn $25 million in September. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH LEGACY?!?

              Hey BOY - McGregor fought boxing ONCE - made $100 million...better legacy than 99%fighters than, right?!?!?

              LMFAOOOOO...damn IMMIGRANT CUCK
              McGregor has better legacy than most MMA fighters and a major chunk of the revenue came from the MMA fans as well. If you cannot understand the relation between legacy and economics of boxing, this conversation is futile. It seems like you are programmed to close off your ears and spout nonsense. Trump should deport you off first before worrying about immigrants. Peace.

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              • stealthradon
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                #167
                Originally posted by DreamFighter
                even the WBA thinks its a bad idea and want to change it back to what it is for everyone else.

                shame the WBA are changing it back. shame 4 u that is.


                nothing to do with rules of boxing
                So you think they are retroactively going to strip GGG of his title?
                Which he won under the then current rules?

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                • stealthradon
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter
                  they do in my world too

                  A
                  Since you say "my world too", you acknowledge that there are multiple worlds.

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #169
                    His mw reign is similar to Hagler and Hopkins. Not bad company at all. Now before some simple minded Simon comes in and starts yapping about Hopkins bouts vs Tarver, Pavlik and Pascal, I clearly stated “mw” which means middleweight. Golovkin is not Ray Robinson but hes not Iran Barkley either. Hes up among the best of all time at 160. Just like you cant fault Hagler for people refusing to fight him, you cant fault Golovkin either. If you’re ok with Hopkins best wins coming against Oscar and Tito, then you need to be ok with Golovkins wins against guys coming up as well. Its ok to be fair. You dont have to like the guy though.

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                    • DreamFighter
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by stealthradon
                      Since you say "my world too", you acknowledge that there are multiple worlds.
                      no but i acknoweldge that I am talking to a kook who thinks there are two in his head, so i gotta humour him.

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