you guys are getting what you wanted...

[Madison Boxing]

beautiful post. it was the POS cherry picker payweather that has led to this. boxing fans are exactly like the cherry picking coward fighters. just like voters are a mirror image of the politicians. spence and Crawford will never fight each other. fighters today are a disgrace just like the fans who bend over backwards. PHUCK THE IBF. I would have thrown their useless belt in the garbage. spence and his handlers promoters etc should be should be fined spence paid payed no money and no fights made except all the champs have to fight each other. Loma makes them all look like girls. in ten fights he did more then spence and Crawford would do in 100 fights

yeah i think lomachenko has made a laughing stock really of the fans who have been allowing fighters to hide behind their promoters for years. hes wanted the tough fights and hes got them. and now hes at the top of the sport in 10 fights because of it. if both guys demanded to fight each other and refuse to fight anyone else im pretty sure the fight would happen. people dont seem to understand that promoters work for the fighters, not the other way round. unfortunately i think a lot of fighters are all too happy to use the 'i let my promoter pick the fights' line though

[Madison Boxing]

Absolutely. This marinating **** is garbage when guys fight like twice a year.

They'll be marinading for the next 5 years till they are ready like Floyd/Manny. These guys are like 28 and 31 years old, what are they waiting for?

yeah its ridiculous, these are the prime years of their career and they want to **** around marinating **** and fighting bums. its ridiculous. i give more leeway to spence than crawford, cause hes younger and at least hes had 1 tough fight which is more than what crawfords took. not saying crawfords ducked anyone but hes been in weak divisions, and now hes in a division where theres some top opposition he should be lining up the top guys straight away now hes got his first fight at 147 out of the way, a fight against a physical guy where bud looked more than strong enough at the weight already. something i said he would (despite people telling me he needed 3 or 4 fights to adjust to the weight which equals 2 years ffs)

[SuperSuperLeeds]

There is a difference between wanting a fight to marinate and people knowing that the marinating route is the one promoters are going to make and there is nothing we can do about it. I don't think anyone on here wants to wait for the fight, but as boxing fans we should all understand that they aren't going to match these guys up now no matter how much either Spence or Crawford say they want to fight one another. Arum himself said he isn't interested in the fight until it can do 500K buys. That alone tells you it isn't happening for at least another year

can you take that loma clip out of your sig plz bruh, everytime I see it I relate to the sickening stomach blow feeling. poor sosa

[SuperSuperLeeds]

yeah i think lomachenko has made a laughing stock really of the fans who have been allowing fighters to hide behind their promoters for years. hes wanted the tough fights and hes got them. and now hes at the top of the sport in 10 fights because of it. if both guys demanded to fight each other and refuse to fight anyone else im pretty sure the fight would happen. people dont seem to understand that promoters work for the fighters, not the other way round. unfortunately i think a lot of fighters are all too happy to use the 'i let my promoter pick the fights' line though

The Juggernaut Big Joe Joyce will do the same, these amateurs are dedicated to their craft and have self belief and experience so no need to hang about. He needs to leave hayemaker ringstar though because they cant afford decent opposition.

[Madison Boxing]

Who the hell said that?? do you just make up **** to b1tch about?

you all got very very defensive in the thread i did a few months ago saying that the fight should happen after crawford got the horn fight out of the way. you act like these guys dont have any say in their career and that their puppet masters pull their strings, its embarrassing. funny how there was no problem with promoters getting lomachenko v linares on straight away when the fighters demanded it. there was no 'oh yeah, their promoters arent gonna work together' talk then. if both fighters dig their feet in and want a fight theyll get it, or are they so scared of their promoters that they dont dare make any demands, if so thats pathetic.

[Boksfan]

So you support champions ducking mandatories? That's what's wrong with boxing, fans crying when champion is doing champion work.

[Madison Boxing]

So you support champions ducking mandatories? That's what's wrong with boxing, fans crying when champion is doing champion work.

whats wrong with boxing is me not getting behind fights like spence v ocampo?

[M Bison]

... most of the top dogs at the WW division are signed with Al Haymon... He managed to make Thurman vs Porter, Thurman vs Danny, Spence vs Peterson... recently, WBC ordered Danny vs Porter...

... on the other hand Arum made Pac vs Horn, Bud vs Horn, Pac vs Lucas...

... none of the fights above is a "big money fight" (except, perhaps, Pac vs Horn)...

... Spence already stated that he will fight Danny/Porter winner and Thurman before he makes the Bud fight...

Yep, spot on Arum is most definitely the problem here his greed knows no bounds.
He won't want Crawford to fight Spence because its way too risky.

[Curt Henning]

typical lil g fan here

doesnt like fights marinating and making business sense when its anyone else...but its ok for lil g....lol...too much

[BoxingTech718]

Spence just has been chasing the big names at welterweight already for years.

Crawford and Arum knows who he is all they have to do is send the contract.