Eddie Hearn just EXPOSED himself!

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Hearn is on video as stating " we are very interested in the offer.. please can we meet and discuss the details of that offer and provide you with an answer"

Hearn's videos are his primary propaganda tool. Intended to fool fans who have no way of knowing how boxing negotiations typically work. Hearn can say one thing that would make a fan think he wants a fight, but is a clear message to those in the industry that he doesn't want the fight.

So this is a good example. When you actually want a fight, you don't refuse to say whether a purse is acceptable. You say yes or no. If you say yes, you start to negotiate the smaller details. If you say no, you counter offer or you walk away. AJ was the one that said he'd sign tomorrow if presented with 50 million. All Haymon wanted before meeting was to know, one way or the other, if AJ was going to be a man of his word. Not waste his time sitting down to discuss smaller details only for Hearn at the end to say, "well now that we have that out of the way, I need to inform you that AJ actually needs 60 million now." Haymon was never going to put himself in a position of weakness like that. If you want a sit down with Haymon, you need to be clear about what has and hasn't been agreed to.

Is it an American thing to do business whereby you only move forward once you go "heres an offer... no details but say yes and we'll discuss.. say no then **** you"

It's a boxing thing. Until you've agreed in principle on money, everything else is irrelevant. Arum and Haymon didn't sit down until a 60/40 framework had been agreed to. Until you have a basic framework for the money, you have nothing.

Over here we like to turn around and say "hmmm interesting offer, can you give me some more info and if im liking what i hear then the answer may be yes"

But it wasn't an interesting offer. It was the exact offer AJ asked for and said he'd immediately accept. All Wilder's side was asking for was for Hearn to confirm that AJ found the money to be acceptable and then they could sit down to hammer out the other details.

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With no details on how that guaranteed purse would be provided until a week later.

Hearn's offer didn't include details on how Wilder's guaranteed purse would be provided. Hearn and Haymon aren't going to make an offer they can't afford to back up. You have to stop falling for Hearn's tricks. Every statement Hearn makes publicly is designed to fool fans into taking his side. That's his job. Haymon doesn't speak publicly, which makes it way easier for Hearn to fool people. The money being real was never a legitimate concern. That was a bogus excuse to save face. Hearn is a brilliant promoter. A brilliant liar. The job of every promoter is to lie. Stop watching Hearn's IFL videos as if it's some sort of gospel coming down from the heavens.

When would it take place? that was never mentioned...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2018/04/25/deontay-wilder-anthony-joshua-50-million-offer/

"take place between September and December at a site that Wilder will choose."

who would choose the location? yeah.. wilders side, not where it would be.

Obviously the fight would be in the US. Let me guess, Hearn was worried the fight would be in Bulgaria? Don't you feel like you're grasping at straws?

There was no rematch clause.. again not negotiable with AJ or Hearn at all. he would always want a rematch. What details were ever made public about interim fights on that offer?

The offer said it must be the next fight for both men, no interim fights.

If no rematch was a deal breaker, then turn down the deal. Nobody was forcing AJ to accept.

AJ said bring me 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow. He didn't say bring me 50 million and in the event that I lose you owe me a rematch. With Wilder's side putting up the money, they actually should have been the side demanding a rematch.

[yammy25]

Hearn's offer didn't include details on how Wilder's guaranteed purse would be provided. Hearn and Haymon aren't going to make an offer they can't afford to back up. You have to stop falling for Hearn's tricks. Every statement Hearn makes publicly is designed to fool fans into taking his side. That's his job. Haymon doesn't speak publicly, which makes it way easier for Hearn to fool people. The money being real was never a legitimate concern. That was a bogus excuse to save face. Hearn is a brilliant promoter. A brilliant liar. The job of every promoter is to lie. Stop watching Hearn's IFL videos as if it's some sort of gospel coming down from the heavens.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2018/04/25/deontay-wilder-anthony-joshua-50-million-offer/

"take place between September and December at a site that Wilder will choose."




Obviously the fight would be in the US. Let me guess, Hearn was worried the fight would be in Bulgaria? Don't you feel like you're grasping at straws?




The offer said it must be the next fight for both men, no interim fights.

If no rematch was a deal breaker, then turn down the deal. Nobody was forcing AJ to accept.

AJ said bring me 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow. He didn't say bring me 50 million and in the event that I lose you owe me a rematch. With Wilder's side putting up the money, they actually should have been the side demanding a rematch.

1. Hearn stated in an interview with thaboxingvoice before the 50 million was confirmed as legit that he didnt think al haymon would have a problem coming up with the money, he questioned what requirements AJ would have to meet upon acceptance of that and wouldnt accept until he knew them. very simple. he does interviews with many outlets, stop making it a british thing.

Hearn wouldnt need to provide that on the same basis.. Matchroom can quite happily afford 12.5 mil dollars.. have a look at companies house, it would come directly from them.
Would the 50 million be directly from Haymon, or from a myriad of different channels, of which Hearn is well within his rights to have knowledge of. Certainly not a take it or leave it within 24 hours and a refusal to discuss which is what he got.

some period within 3 months.. of which wilder will choose. That isnt a venue, unless you have a venue and a city even, then dont even bother. The UK is always going to be either wembley or cardiff.. simple. Its not a trick to simply ask what city or venue. I never mentioned about what country, the basis of the offer was for it to be in the states.. with vegas menitoned but nothing secured.

I never stated anything about interim fights? why are even bringing that up? both offers were done on the basis of it being the next fight but wilders 50 million offer was with no rematch.. dont try and state differently as finkel stated this himself. Hearn will never accept an offer without a rematch. Again, you're deliberately missing things out or changing tac.

Dont act like you always do whereby you propose what business really happens in boxing and then say " well AJ should have included a rematch in that off the cuff statement he made in an interview " which was made because he clearly didnt believe it was a 100 million dollar fight, which he stil doesnt.. hearn doesnt, and anyone who has a brain about the market doesnt.

[WhatDisButtonDo]

It's weird to me..so many people on here are fans of Eddie Hearn...how can you be a boxing fan and be a fan of a PROMOTER? This forum is full of weirdos.

[yammy25]

It's weird to me..so many people on here are fans of Eddie Hearn...how can you be a boxing fan and be a fan of a PROMOTER? This forum is full of weirdos.

Maybe because most of us that like him are british ? It's not about preferring hearn over fighters, its about acknowledging that as far as what he has done for boxing in the UK and the good fights he has put on , to a much more regular degree than frank warren, he isnt that ****in bad.

He doesnt deliberately shelter fighters, and as far as getting paid.. you'll be hard pressed to find a promoter that pays as well to his fighters than what he does.

Im sure you could ask the many boxers in the UK who have been under both Hearn and Warren who they would prefer, and it'd be Hearn.

Promoters typically are slimy ****s.. and hearn is no different. he's just a more likeable slimy **** to the younger more casual boxing demographic than the others.

[MDPopescu]

That's not true. Wilder's offer included all of the major details. Wilder wanted Hearn to agree in principle that the major details were acceptable so they could then start hammering out the minor details. That is how things usually work. You don't start wasting time arguing about the color of the ring posts if the purse structure hasn't even been agreed to yet.

They weren't trying to force him to publicly do anything.

Wilder's side didn't want to meet if the 50 million was being rejected. If Hearn had said, "50 million is acceptable, pending other details, let's discuss those details," they would have met with him.

But they didn't want to waste their time with a meeting when Hearn was refusing to say whether AJ would keep his word about the 50 million.

... Do you ever read what you write?... every line, every logical inference, every implication term?...

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1. Hearn stated in an interview with thaboxingvoice before the 50 million was confirmed as legit that he didnt think al haymon would have a problem coming up with the money, he questioned what requirements AJ would have to meet upon acceptance of that and wouldnt accept until he knew them.

Bogus excuses to fool naive fans. Hearn knew the money was being guaranteed by Showtime. If he had any legitimate concerns about the money, he could have said "we agree in principle to the purse structure you've proposed, but would need to know more about the source of funds before signing off on anything."

Pretty much every fight ever is made by agreeing in principle to the money first and then moving on to everything else. Hearn knows this. He's very cunning. A great speaker. A brilliant promoter. But he spoon feeds bull**** to the UK fans day in and day out and they always fall for it. It's crazy.

Hearn wouldnt need to provide that on the same basis.. Matchroom can quite happily afford 12.5 mil dollars.. have a look at companies house, it would come directly from them.

And the CBS corporation can't afford 50 million? Are you insane?

[ashadam]

No not in that way!

Eddie Hearn said today he's now going to send a contract over. So basically he said he made wilder an offer WITHOUT sending any contract to them.

Now rewind a few weeks back when Wilder made an offer to Eddie Hearn. Wasn't Eddie Hearn CRYING his little beady eyes out cause Wilders team didn't send a contract they only made an offer without a contract?

Huh? HUH!

EXPOSED BIG BOY!

Without a doubt you are the biggest fool on this site - wow

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Maybe because most of us that like him are british ? It's not about preferring hearn over fighters, its about acknowledging that as far as what he has done for boxing in the UK and the good fights he has put on , to a much more regular degree than frank warren, he isnt that ****in bad.

Nothing wrong with enjoying the fight cards Hearn puts on. He does a great job. The problem is that you guys believe everything he says, even though he's a pathological liar. You can enjoy his fights without having to blindly believe every word he says on IFL.

He doesnt deliberately shelter fighters, and as far as getting paid.. you'll be hard pressed to find a promoter that pays as well to his fighters than what he does.

Why do you care if he pays his fighters well? How does that affect your enjoyment of his fights?

Promoters typically are slimy ****s.. and hearn is no different. he's just a more likeable slimy **** to the younger more casual boxing demographic than the others.

He's very likable. He's handsome. Charismatic. Charming. Great sense of humor. But he lies through his teeth nonstop and it gets a bit annoying when you guys just repeat everything he says as the gospel.

[Illmatic94]

The AJ groupies just run with anything slick Eddie says.

apparently this offer was given 4 weeks ago.. Prove it. nothing but lies but yet you hear them parrot this 4 week crap.

Hearn said this was only a $40 million dollar fight. they believed that too.

Hearn said the $50 million was a PR stunt so they chanted that nonstop and didn't even say sorry when made to look like fools.

these idiot just follow along. Kool Aid drinkers.