Comments Thread For: Wilder: I've Agreed To Joshua Fight In UK, Ball In Their Court!

[LacedUp]

False. He agreed to fight Klitschko after the Fury fight. Wladimir and Wilder have the same manager and the fight was being planned. It never happened because Wladimir lost.

What you're trying to refer to, is that very manager saying Wilder needed a couple quick defenses to get ready, but he said that when Wladimir was already committed to another fight before Wilder even won the title, and Wilder's two defenses happened so quickly that Wilder was ready before Wladimir even fought again.

So the timeline doesn't support your premise at all.

He agreed to what? Fight Wladimir when Wlad was signed to fight Fury for the rematch.

Well done Wilder. 'Agreeing' to something that can't happen. When else did he agree? Was it somehow in the 2 months between Wlad being out of the Fury shambles and signing a deal to fight AJ?

You're a whore mate. And you're delusional.

[Ray*]

I don’t get this mentality of defending Wilder till we are black and blue in the face, so far nothing is his fault. I haven’t seen anyone (Poster that are known to defend anything Wilder) actually criticise him for anything. It’s not his fault he fought 40 fights with a lot of cans, it’s not his fault that he never got to fight better competition, it’s never his fault for turning down good offers. This same posters are calling others fan boys, the same fan boys that are actually willing to criticise every other boxer including Wilder.

[N/A]

It's funny how Hearn tells so many lies according to Wilder fanboys.

I'm not even a fan, let alone a fan boy. Hearn's job is to lie. No different than Bob Arum or Don King. Hearn's lying isn't what makes him unique. UK fans hanging on his every word as the gospel is what makes him unique. In the US, we realize the promoters are full of ****, yet apparently in the UK you guys are very eager to believe Hearn's every word.

Yet how many times is he called out for it by the people the he's dealing with? Hardly ever. But if he was called out by DiBella or Finkel for example, you would blindly believe them whilst ignoring the logic you're applying only to Hearn.

Haymon never speaks. Hearn was called out by Finkel when Finkel explained that you never send a contract first and was proven correct when Wilder accepted Hearn's offer and Hearn admitted he still needed to send a contract. So everything Finkel had said about Hearn lying ended up being proven true by Hearn's own actions.

There's no doubt there are exaggerations from all sides of business when it comes to boxing. But this ain't the damn matrix, not everything around you is a lie. What a sad approach to take just to honour your agenda.

My only agenda is truth. The only way to honor my agenda is to point out the lies. Hearn is the best promoter. He also lies the most. It's not a coincidence. Lying is one of the most essential parts of being a promoter. You can't be a good promoter without being a good liar. I like Hearn. I respect Hearn. He's the best promoter to come along since King and Arum. And like King and Arum, he's lies 24/7.

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He agreed to what? Fight Wladimir when Wlad was signed to fight Fury for the rematch.

Before Wlad lost that fight, and therefore before anyone knew Wlad would need to exercise the rematch clause, Finkel set up a major interview in a big mainstream publication to have Wilder start hyping the fight with Wlad. Had Wlad beaten Fury, the plan was Wlad vs Wilder the next year.

[N/A]

And how long ago was that before he fought Wilder?

Just so we can remember this :



You set yourself up mate. You're so ****** you can't see i'm always 10.000 steps ahead of you.

Now watch this fool try to make an excuse.

uhhhh ortiz's most recent knockout was a few months before he fought wilder.

wlad's most recent knockout was a few years before he fought AJ.

big difference.

[EnglishOxide]

Haymon never speaks. Hearn was called out by Finkel when Finkel explained that you never send a contract first and was proven correct when Wilder accepted Hearn's offer and Hearn admitted he still needed to send a contract. So everything Finkel had said about Hearn lying ended up being proven true by Hearn's own actions.

You cannot be serious...


First scenario:

Hearn: "Good offer, let's see the details, we are happy to proceed, send us a contract."

Finkel: "No. Let's not discuss anything, just say yes".


Current scenario:

Wilder: "Ok, we have discussed back and forth, and looked at details for the past 4 weeks, we are happy to proceed, send us a contract."

Hearn: "Absolutely, it will be there by the end of the week."


Hearn said you discuss and agree on details before agreeing to the offer. Then you send a contract. That is exactly how he appears to have done business. Finkel didn't even want to do anything in the 48hr deadline he put up.

[N/A]

Hearn: "Good offer, let's see the details, we are happy to proceed, send us a contract."

Hearn didn't send a contract until Wilder said the money was acceptable. That's how this works. If you have no experience negotiating fights, don't just take Hearn's word for how it works. Look at Hearn's actions.

[Jkp]

I don't even know what to say to this

Promotion flies straight over your head. Ortiz was handfed scrubs to make him look good so they could build up a massive AJ fight - Ortiz understood this, Jay Jimenez understood this.

Ortiz turned up and looked like dog ****e.

Or maybe they scared of ortiz

[LacedUp]

uhhhh ortiz's most recent knockout was a few months before he fought wilder.

wlad's most recent knockout was a few years before he fought AJ.

big difference.

yeah the difference is Ortiz can knock out journeymen and nothing else.

Couldn't even put Dave Allen down.

Beast doe

[LacedUp]

Before Wlad lost that fight, and therefore before anyone knew Wlad would need to exercise the rematch clause, Finkel set up a major interview in a big mainstream publication to have Wilder start hyping the fight with Wlad. Had Wlad beaten Fury, the plan was Wlad vs Wilder the next year.

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