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    #161
    Originally posted by Ordinaryboy86
    There’s no reason to disbelieve anything, he’s been actively trying to make the fight since late last year. FYI I think Wilder beats AJ. But from past fights, it’s obvious Joshua doesn’t duck anyone and Hearn would love to line his own pockets. The resistance is coming from team wilder.
    Hearn is a promoter. His job is to lie incessantly. If you see no reason to disbelieve anything he says, that is the problem right there.

    You have no idea if he was actively trying to make the fight last year. He said that and you believed him. Your entire view of the situation is based on him lying and you believing because you have no way of knowing the difference.

    Joshua has a great resume for his level of experience, but Hearn has been a smart promoter and stalled fights against Ortiz or Wilder because a devastating knockout puncher is what you should always avoid whenever possible. That is boxing 101.

    Parker was a much safer fight. You don't rush into the most dangerous fight. So for you to pretend that Hearn has been seriously pursuing this fight for a year is to accuse Hearn of being totally incompetent and he is anything but.

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    • Ordinaryboy86
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      #162
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      Hearn is a promoter. His job is to lie incessantly. If you see no reason to disbelieve anything he says, that is the problem right there.

      You have no idea if he was actively trying to make the fight last year. He said that and you believed him. Your entire view of the situation is based on him lying and you believing because you have no way of knowing the difference.

      Joshua has a great resume for his level of experience, but Hearn has been a smart promoter and stalled fights against Ortiz or Wilder because a devastating knockout puncher is what you should always avoid whenever possible. That is boxing 101.

      Parker was a much safer fight. You don't rush into the most dangerous fight. So for you to pretend that Hearn has been seriously pursuing this fight for a year is to accuse Hearn of being totally incompetent and he is anything but.
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      Hearn is a promoter. His job is to lie incessantly. If you see no reason to disbelieve anything he says, that is the problem right there.

      You have no idea if he was actively trying to make the fight last year. He said that and you believed him. Your entire view of the situation is based on him lying and you believing because you have no way of knowing the difference.

      Joshua has a great resume for his level of experience, but Hearn has been a smart promoter and stalled fights against Ortiz or Wilder because a devastating knockout puncher is what you should always avoid whenever possible. That is boxing 101.

      Parker was a much safer fight. You don't rush into the most dangerous fight. So for you to pretend that Hearn has been seriously pursuing this fight for a year is to accuse Hearn of being totally incompetent and he is anything but.

      Mate he chucked him in with Dillian Whyte after 14 fights after Whyte had already beat him as an amateur, chucked him in with Wlad in his 19th fight, unified again in his 21st. No ones wrapping AJ in cotton in wool. This myth that Hearn talks **** and doesn’t deliver is bollocks. He put one of his star fighters in with Golovkin & Spence b2b. Just sent McDonnell to get slaughtered against Inoue. Like him or not he’s wants to make the big fights, even if it’s just for his own ego.

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      • uppercut510
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        #163
        hearn/aj fanatcs already have the excuse ready!!! hearn has already given it to them. "wilder took 4 weeks to respond"

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          #164
          Originally posted by Ordinaryboy86
          Mate he chucked him in with Dillian Whyte after 14 fights after Whyte had already beat him as an amateur, chucked him in with Wlad in his 19th fight, unified again in his 21st. No ones wrapping AJ in cotton in wool. This myth that Hearn talks **** and doesn’t deliver is bollocks. He put one of his star fighters in with Golovkin & Spence b2b. Just sent McDonnell to get slaughtered against Inoue. Like him or not he’s wants to make the big fights, even if it’s just for his own ego.

          Worth some perspective here

          Whyte is nothing special, he's a hungry fighter but in no era would he be a world champ.
          The loss wasnt a threat as AJ had millions behind him in training, nutrition & development since then.

          If anything it showed that AJ wasnt indestructible rather than Whyte being good.
          But they need to hype AJ so they've gone with Whyte being a threat.


          Whyte getting credit for beating an inactive, out of shape & average fighter in Brown. Whyte was gifted a win against a past it Chisora

          AJ faced Wlad once he'd been dethroned. Wasnt mention before Fury beat him & was 2 years away from being ready.

          They thought he was done & he was as Fury had took his soul(thats why Wlad mimicked Fury's style vs AJ on his toes)

          The version Fury faced of Wlad(previous fights) would have stopped Brown, Chisora, Whyte & Parker with ease.

          AJ was built beating bums & old, aged average fighters. Fake hype/rivalries (he & whyte are pals)& a decent fight vs wlad

          Hearn was built by stealing fighters from other promoters. He took named fighters in Froch & Brook. AJ was a name before Hearn

          He continued to feed bums to Brook in "stadium fights" until everyone realised he'd fought nobody.

          Hearn then fed brook to GGG so Hearn could rescue a payday for himself & keep USA sweet. It was eubank fight meant to happen.

          Brook took it for a career high payday. He'd earned shít money for his "stadium " fights

          He lost & was then about to be stripped of his safety net that Hearn had assured him of(his belt at 147 win/lose to ggg)

          Brook being proud & ****** took the fight with Spence. Hearn wanted him to avoid to keep the gravy train moving

          McDonnell isn't known yet was champ for years. Like Brook Mcdonell forced the fight trying to get recognition.
          Hearn wanted both to continue to fight shïte for average paydays & continue making him money.

          Both fighters forced his hand as they were frustrated with him not getting them genuine big fights.

          Hearn's done fück all for the game other than take money out for himself.

          He's being seen for what he is now but back in the day he had 99% fanboys on here & was seen as a breath of fresh air.

          He sells shïte for prime to casuals
          He's a cűnt

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            #165
            Originally posted by ukbox
            Worth some perspective here

            Whyte is nothing special, he's a hungry fighter but in no era would he be a world champ.
            The loss wasnt a threat as AJ had millions behind him in training, nutrition & development since then.

            If anything it showed that AJ wasnt indestructible rather than Whyte being good.
            But they need to hype AJ so they've gone with Whyte being a threat.


            Whyte getting credit for beating an inactive, out of shape & average fighter in Brown. Whyte was gifted a win against a past it Chisora

            AJ faced Wlad once he'd been dethroned. Wasnt mention before Fury beat him & was 2 years away from being ready.

            They thought he was done & he was as Fury had took his soul(thats why Wlad mimicked Fury's style vs AJ on his toes)

            The version Fury faced of Wlad(previous fights) would have stopped Brown, Chisora, Whyte & Parker with ease.

            AJ was built beating bums & old, aged average fighters. Fake hype/rivalries (he & whyte are pals)& a decent fight vs wlad

            Hearn was built by stealing fighters from other promoters. He took named fighters in Froch & Brook. AJ was a name before Hearn

            He continued to feed bums to Brook in "stadium fights" until everyone realised he'd fought nobody.

            Hearn then fed brook to GGG so Hearn could rescue a payday for himself & keep USA sweet. It was eubank fight meant to happen.

            Brook took it for a career high payday. He'd earned shít money for his "stadium " fights

            He lost & was then about to be stripped of his safety net that Hearn had assured him of(his belt at 147 win/lose to ggg)

            Brook being proud & ****** took the fight with Spence. Hearn wanted him to avoid to keep the gravy train moving

            McDonnell isn't known yet was champ for years. Like Brook Mcdonell forced the fight trying to get recognition.
            Hearn wanted both to continue to fight shïte for average paydays & continue making him money.

            Both fighters forced his hand as they were frustrated with him not getting them genuine big fights.

            Hearn's done fück all for the game other than take money out for himself.

            He's being seen for what he is now but back in the day he had 99% fanboys on here & was seen as a breath of fresh air.

            He sells shïte for prime to casuals
            He's a cűnt
            ****ing bollocks, you’ve got a genuine disdain for the guy therefore you’ll pick holes in everything he does, your opinion is impartial.
            I’m not on either side, Whyte is fringe world level but he and Joshua were still novice pro’s at the time, it was a risky fight. Wlad was a massive risk but maybe you’re rating AJ more than I am, he’s wooden top, just waiting to get knocked out, but he ain’t ducking Wilder.
            And to say Hearn has done nothing for boxing just shows a massive level of stubborn ignorance, He’s put boxing back on the map in the U.K. and fired it into the mainstream, if you wanna be cynical and say he’s only done it to line his own pockets then fair enough, but the numbers don’t lie and he’s got some great talent at matchroom, softly matched at times but who isn’t? Took Wilder 40 fights to finally get a live oppenent, Golovkin fought tin cans before Jacobs & Canelo. Give it 30 years pal, you’ll still be watching re-runs of Froch Groves & Joshua Klitschko, brought to you by matchroom sports and Eddie Hearn 😘

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              #166
              Originally posted by uppercut510
              hearn/aj fanatcs already have the excuse ready!!! hearn has already given it to them. "wilder took 4 weeks to respond"
              saw that one coming a mile away...

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              • Ordinaryboy86
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                #167
                Originally posted by uppercut510
                hearn/aj fanatcs already have the excuse ready!!! hearn has already given it to them. "wilder took 4 weeks to respond"
                Told you I’m not a fanatic, i don’t rate AJ but it’s common sense, if you fancy the fight and like the deal, why wait until AJ Povetkin is nearly over the line to respond. Is everyone on here as thick as you? You’re the one rimming Wilder taking a few Instagram posts at face value with no clue what’s going on behind the scenes. Wise up man.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  saw that one coming a mile away...

                  Don’t be daft, You're taking the word of a chump champion who's fought 39 bums in 40 fights, over a guy with 21-0 record who's fought two unification bouts in his last two fights lolllllll. Do the math. You know Wilder was offered the Fury fight when Haye withdrew but he bottled it, Wilder has be swerving decent opposition his whole career.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Ordinaryboy86
                    Don’t be daft, You're taking the word of a chump champion who's fought 39 bums in 40 fights, over a guy with 21-0 record who's fought two unification bouts in his last two fights lolllllll. Do the math. You know Wilder was offered the Fury fight when Haye withdrew but he bottled it, Wilder has be swerving decent opposition his whole career.
                    fought ortiz who is, at worst, a top 4 HW....went to russia to face povetkin till povetkin realized he couldnt win

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Ordinaryboy86
                      Mate he chucked him in with Dillian Whyte after 14 fights after Whyte had already beat him as an amateur, chucked him in with Wlad in his 19th fight, unified again in his 21st. No ones wrapping AJ in cotton in wool.
                      Hearn has taken chances with AJ and they've paid off. But your position was that nobody has been avoided. That's not true. Hearn has avoided the biggest punchers. As he should have. It's not like Ortiz or Wilder was monetarily worth the risk at the time. I'm not criticizing Hearn. Just stating plain fact that Hearn has been wise with the risks he's taken. You don't rush a guy into a fight with the absolute most dangerous punchers in the world.

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