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Who is the absolute greatest between Ray Robinson and Roy Jones on there best night?
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Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View PostBeen seen this, it is the closest thing to his prime but not really prime!
I'm talking about when he was 25-27 years old just destroying and schooling everyone!
But i appreciate the post, it's beautiful to watch this guy fight and he had better fundamentals and footwork than a lot of today's fighters!
8 HOF on his resume, still a record that won't be matched!
Gatti-already in
Manny
Cotto
Canelo
Mosley
Jmm
Oscar
that is 7 first ballots right there
possibles
Hatton
Hernendez
Castillo
Corrales
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Postdepends man look at Floyd
Gatti-already in
Manny
Cotto
Canelo
Mosley
Jmm
Oscar
that is 7 first ballots right there
possibles
Hatton
Hernendez
Castillo
Corrales
Sammy Angott
Jake Lamotta
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Rocky Graziano
Carmen Basilio
Gene Fullmer
California Jackie Wilson
Mayweather only fought a prime Castillo and Corrales out of that group while Robinson beat atleast 5 ATG HOF in their prime! There's no match here, his best win is against a gun shy and war torn Pacquiao!
This isn't a debate, Mayweather is a great fighter who would do well in any era due to his work ethic, focus, IQ, footwork, skills and defense but we're talking about the GOAT here!
Y'all can call Floyd the best but Robinson is the greatest!
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Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View PostNo doubt Mayweather has one of the best resumes in the sport but this is two different classes we're talking about here!
Sammy Angott
Jake Lamotta
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan
Rocky Graziano
Carmen Basilio
Gene Fullmer
California Jackie Wilson
Mayweather only fought a prime Castillo and Corrales out of that group while Robinson beat atleast 5 ATG HOF in their prime! There's no match here, his best win is against a gun shy and war torn Pacquiao!
This isn't a debate, Mayweather is a great fighter who would do well in any era due to his work ethic, focus, IQ, footwork, skills and defense but we're talking about the GOAT here!
Y'all can call Floyd the best but Robinson is the greatest!
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No way to know since I never witnessed Ray Robinson in his prime and there isn't quality footage of it. I can make a guess and that guess is Roy Jones would play with and stop Robinson.
Roy was not a same day 160lber so he was a good 10lbs+ bigger as a 160lber. And Robinson lost to guys that were basically overhyped nostalgic Salido type fighters. Hate all you want but I don't let nostalgia cloud my mind thinking about older cruder fighters that were smaller per weight class.
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Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View PostBeen seen this, it is the closest thing to his prime but not really prime!
I'm talking about when he was 25-27 years old just destroying and schooling everyone!
But i appreciate the post, it's beautiful to watch this guy fight and he had better fundamentals and footwork than a lot of today's fighters!
8 HOF on his resume, still a record that won't be matched!
There was a thread on this in the history section.
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https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=354155
Harry Greb - 13 Kid Norfolk, Tunney, Levinsky, T.Gibbons,M. Gibbobs, Dillon, Flowers, Rosenbloom, Slattery, Walker, Loughran, Blackburn, billy miske
Jimmy Mclarnin- 11 -Villa,Labarba, Ambers, Canzoneri, Ross, Kaplan Petrolle, Leonard, Young Corbett 3, Bud Taylor, J. Fields
Sugar Ray Robinson- 10 - Armstrong, Lamotta, Fullmer, Kid Gavilan, Basilio, Graziano, Zivic,Turpin, Angott, Olson
Henry Armstrong- 10 - Wolgast, Ross, Angott, Ambers, Jenkins, Zivic, Montanez, Bass, Wright, Arizmendy
Joe Louis -8 - Schmeling, Sharkey, Conn, Walcott, Baer, Braddock, JH Lewis, Bivins. (Primo Carnera in World Hall of Fame but due to fixed fights scandal his career under question)
Muhammad Ali -7 Foster, Moore, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Norton
Ezzard Charles 9. Jimmy Bivins, Charley Burley, Harold Johnson, Joe Louis, Lloyd Marshall, Joey Maxim, Jersey Joe Walcott, Teddy Yarosz and Archie Moore.
Sam Langford 11:George Godfrey,Tiger Flowers,Harry Wills,Joe Jeannette,Sam McVey,Philadelphia Jack O'Brian,Dixie Kid,Joe Gans,Jack Blackburn,Kid Norfolk,Stanley Ketchel (newspaper decision)
Jack Johnson 7: Sam McVea,Jim Jeffries,Stanley Ketchell,Tommy Burns,Bob Fitzsimmons,Joe Jeannette,Sam Langford
Johnny Risko 7:Tommy Loughran,Mickey Walker,Max Baer,
George Godfrey,Jack Sharkey,Jack Delaney,Paul Berlenbach
Tony Canzoneri 9: Lou Ambers, Jimmy Mclarnin,Baby Arizmendy
Kid Chocolate,Billy Petrolle,Jack (Kid) Berg, Benny Bass, Bud Taylor
Johnny Dundee
Freddie Welsh 7 Abe Attell, Jim Driscoll, Johnny Dundee, Willie Ritchie, Ad Wolgast, Benny Leonard & Battling Nelson
Tommy Loughran 8: George Carpentier, Max Baer, James Braddock, Harry Greb,Young Stribling, Jack Sharkey, Mickey Walker, Jimmy Slattery
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View PostI believe Roy was better as well, I honestly am not to impressed with Robinson to be honest
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There will never be another Sugar Ray Robinson. Only one and will always be one. Over 200 fights and to have a record like that and beat a good amount of hall of famers. No one will ever see that again.
Greatest boxer to ever step foot in a boxing ring.
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Originally posted by Blue54 View PostIn their straight primes best night of their careers who is the best between the 2?
Robinson has every physical tool in the book backed with his knowledge while.
Roy on the other has everything but a chin but on his best night I dont see any one really touching him and I think Robinson exceed him on footwork chin and power but Roy reflexes make him debatable unbeatable to anyone from 160 to 175 ur thoughts?
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