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  • #81
    Manny put a huge beating on him in Australia and was utterly robbed. I dont remember which round, 8th or 9th, Horn was practically KO'd standing up miraculously, and at the end of that round, the referee went to his corner, told him he was gonna stop the fight for his safety if he saw him not throw anything. Then the next round Horn did all kinds of shenanigans like hugging, illegally punching, pushing, etc., to keep Manny at bay and he did that in the next rounds as well, IT WAS A HUGE BEATING FROM BEGINNING TO END. Horn never ever was a champion, he was a fabricated one. I didn't even care to watch the fight with Crawford, it was obvious Horn was gonna lose. But I still think Manny in his prime form and weight --below welterweight-- would beat Crawford soundly in his prime which I guess is NOW. If Lomachenko wasn't naturally a two weight-class smaller guy than Crawford, I am pretty sure he'd easily beat up and KO Crawford. Loma is way faster on both hands and feet than Crawford, he is a way better boxer in his head and body movement, he is way better at attack and defense, BUT HE IS WAY SMALLER NATURALLY.

    Just watch that fight between Crawford and Gamboa. Crawford was WAY BIGGER AND STRONGER than Gamboa, that's the ONLY reason he pulled it off because Gamboa was beating him up badly, but his punches were pillow fisted because DUUUH, Gamboa was TINY compared to Crawford, but anyone who is not a ridiculously biased American that cheers for Crawford blindly, could see that Gamboa was WAY FASTER than Crawfrord and very accurate, he was giving him a boxing lesson and a weak-punching beating. Had they been the same size, it would have been a KO for Gamboa. It is a very similar story to JMM-Floyd, a JMM that looked like a fat guy who really was three divisions smaller than Floyd, but was in there FOR THE MONEY, totally out of shape, and a Floyd that looked three divisions bigger, stronger, full of muscle, and yet and and I emphasize this again, ignore the biased Americans that will cheer for their nationals super prejudiciously, JMM connected tons of punches to Floyd's face and body that those SOLD OUT ROTTEN judges, comp-stats "providers" and American commentators chose to ignore, but unfortunately all those beautiful 4-6 punch combinations were pillow-fisted, Malinaggi-style because duh, JMM was really 2-3 divisions smaller than Floyd in that fight. So the scumbag judges chose to ignore all those beautifully connected punches by JMM, but they were there.

    Crawford is not such a big deal. Gamboa would have KO'd him at one or two divisions lower than the one they fought at. So, in that weight and size mismatch "fight," Crawford was catapulted to glory and Gamboa, undefeated and a real fan-friendly spectacular super-fast boxer, went completely into oblivion because he is Cuban.

    When somebody with fast hands and good boxing IQ, HIS SAME SIZE OR BIGGER faces Crawford, that will be the end of his P4P status, mark my words. But he is American, so he will ALWAYS get some kind of an advantage when he fights anybody competitive, and he will never fight outside the US, where the judges, commentators, "punch stat providers" yeah right are located, just like his fellow mate Floyd did all his career. The likes of Manny, Loma and Gamboa get to fight away from their home country their entire careers, having to fight in mismatches or suffering robberies. It is the story of the money. Money talks. The Wards, Crawfords and Floyds of the world, as long as they fight at home where the money is, will always "win."
    Last edited by sterilizer; 06-11-2018, 02:17 AM.

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    • #82
      Please no .

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      • #83
        Crawford won every round and would do so again. They got no business being in the ring v each other again.

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        • #84
          Money talks. Jeff Horn is a good acclimatisation fight fight for Bud. One for the belt, two for the dough. Double that purse, enrich a nukka

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          • #85
            Horn and his handlers are great conmen. Just listen to the way they talk, especially the trainer. A rematch will mean some more money, and that money can only come from Australia where they can con their way for Australians to buy the fight, make it like Horn can beat Crawford (despite the evidence).

            Well, if one can still get some money, why not ? It's their business.

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            • #86
              Crawford already beat his ass and now he can match up with the big names at 147.

              If Crawford doesnt stop him the second time, he is likely to get shafted by the judges in Australia.

              Horn is annoying as chit and I just want him to go away. He had the nerve to demand nationalities of judges like he was going to get ripped off fighting in Vegas, when he just received a gift win himself. Now post fight there is just endless bullchit and excuses from him after he got his ass beat. I thought he was going to be humble after his post fight interview but I guess not.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by richardt View Post
                Were you able to collect points from that pinhead named Archie Leach? As if there were many points since there was under 300 posts from that fool.

                Lol, haven’t seen or heard from him as of yet.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
                  the Spence fight doesn't happen this year or next. way too many hurdles. and I gotta feeling they're gonna try to marinate it to death. so there's no sense debating that at this point. Why not pick up a check in Australia? hell that's what GGG is probably gonna do fighting Murata in Japan in a fight nobody on NSB gives a fck about.
                  I agree with everything you said except that Porter vs garcia winner then Thurm are a great streak of match up.

                  The thing is Horn already lost and was totally outclassed so I dunno if people will be interested in that fight.

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                  • #89
                    So y'all can rob him like you did pacman.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by sterilizer View Post
                      Manny put a huge beating on him in Australia and was utterly robbed. I dont remember which round, 8th or 9th, Horn was practically KO'd standing up miraculously, and at the end of that round, the referee went to his corner, told him he was gonna stop the fight for his safety if he saw him not throw anything. Then the next round Horn did all kinds of shenanigans like hugging, illegally punching, pushing, etc., to keep Manny at bay and he did that in the next rounds as well, IT WAS A HUGE BEATING FROM BEGINNING TO END. Horn never ever was a champion, he was a fabricated one. I didn't even care to watch the fight with Crawford, it was obvious Horn was gonna lose. But I still think Manny in his prime form and weight --below welterweight-- would beat Crawford soundly in his prime which I guess is NOW. If Lomachenko wasn't naturally a two weight-class smaller guy than Crawford, I am pretty sure he'd easily beat up and KO Crawford. Loma is way faster on both hands and feet than Crawford, he is a way better boxer in his head and body movement, he is way better at attack and defense, BUT HE IS WAY SMALLER NATURALLY.

                      Just watch that fight between Crawford and Gamboa. Crawford was WAY BIGGER AND STRONGER than Gamboa, that's the ONLY reason he pulled it off because Gamboa was beating him up badly, but his punches were pillow fisted because DUUUH, Gamboa was TINY compared to Crawford, but anyone who is not a ridiculously biased American that cheers for Crawford blindly, could see that Gamboa was WAY FASTER than Crawfrord and very accurate, he was giving him a boxing lesson and a weak-punching beating. Had they been the same size, it would have been a KO for Gamboa. It is a very similar story to JMM-Floyd, a JMM that looked like a fat guy who really was three divisions smaller than Floyd, but was in there FOR THE MONEY, totally out of shape, and a Floyd that looked three divisions bigger, stronger, full of muscle, and yet and and I emphasize this again, ignore the biased Americans that will cheer for their nationals super prejudiciously, JMM connected tons of punches to Floyd's face and body that those SOLD OUT ROTTEN judges, comp-stats "providers" and American commentators chose to ignore, but unfortunately all those beautiful 4-6 punch combinations were pillow-fisted, Malinaggi-style because duh, JMM was really 2-3 divisions smaller than Floyd in that fight. So the scumbag judges chose to ignore all those beautifully connected punches by JMM, but they were there.

                      Crawford is not such a big deal. Gamboa would have KO'd him at one or two divisions lower than the one they fought at. So, in that weight and size mismatch "fight," Crawford was catapulted to glory and Gamboa, undefeated and a real fan-friendly spectacular super-fast boxer, went completely into oblivion because he is Cuban.

                      When somebody with fast hands and good boxing IQ, HIS SAME SIZE OR BIGGER faces Crawford, that will be the end of his P4P status, mark my words. But he is American, so he will ALWAYS get some kind of an advantage when he fights anybody competitive, and he will never fight outside the US, where the judges, commentators, "punch stat providers" yeah right are located, just like his fellow mate Floyd did all his career. The likes of Manny, Loma and Gamboa get to fight away from their home country their entire careers, having to fight in mismatches or suffering robberies. It is the story of the money. Money talks. The Wards, Crawfords and Floyds of the world, as long as they fight at home where the money is, will always "win."
                      Interesting analysis and observations. You make some valid points. However, it sounds like you are negatively biased against Crawford and don't give him much credit. 1st of all, he did not fight in the US his entire career. He won his 1st title (WBO) by fighting in a foreign country against Ricky Burns in Glasgow, Scotland. Although he was bigger than Gamboa by 2 weight classes, Crawford himself has moved up & won titles in 3 weight classes by TKO and unified the 140 lbs division against legit champions. He 1st started at 135 but was able to TKO Horn who is a natural 147 pounder. Sure, Horn is a bum fighter but he has a granite chin but still was able to go down even if Crawford is from a smaller weight class. A true test for Crawford would be to fight the other welterweight champions which are Keith Thurman, Errol Spence Jr, and although Danny Garcia lost his WBC title to Thurman, that would still be a good test. Now if he defeats or even knocks these guys out, then nobody can call him a fluke or underrated fighter. I agree Pacquiao at his prime in 2008/2009 when he TKO'd Dela Hoya & Cotto, would defeat Horn and Crawford today hands down. However, that does not make Crawford an illegitimate champion or not worthy of respect since Crawford can only fight who is available and not against hypothetical opponents. Regarding comparing Crawford with Lomachenko, I too agree that Lomachenko has the skills to beat Crawford. However, that fight can actually be made by fighting at a catchweight. If Crawford is willing to move back down to 135, which is Lomachenko's current weight class, he can still face Lomachanko since that's the weight class where Crawford 1st started but he left that division in 2014. They can fight at a catchweight somewhere between 135 and 140 to make it happen. I like both fighters and I don't know who will win but they both have the skills to beat each other on any given day. It all depends on whose game plan will be implemented 1st and most effectively. Who will win can be debated but the only way to know for sure is to put them in the ring. How will Crawford do against Mayweather at his prime? I would go with Mayweather.
                      Last edited by KidDynamiteJr; 06-11-2018, 04:36 AM.

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