What is your definition of the following terms...

[abracada]

(a) Robbery.
(b) Exposed.
(c) Duck.

These three terms are amongst the most overused and misused terms on this site, and I'm curious to see what some of y'all on here define these words as, or at the very least, what constitutes each or all of them.

On my part, I will reveal what I feel does NOT constitute them in my opinion.

Robbery:

A closely contested fight in which close rounds can be scored for either fighter going the way of a certain fighter is NOT a ****ing robbery. The way some people on here act, if a fighter they favour does not lose via 1st round death, then it's a damn robbery.

Exposed:

When a fighter steps up in competition and suddenly stops scoring numerous knock downs and no longer blows his opponents out of the ring, that dude hasn't been "exposed", he has just moved up to a different level. A fighter being exposed in my opinion is when that step up is made, and they lose badly, or lose repeatedly. Even then, what ends up being "exposed" or revealed is that they aren't as good as they appeared to be, not that they suck balls.

Duck:

Well, ****. This is a little more complicated because let's be honest, boxing is filled with mad political maneuvering and ****, so we can't just claim two fighters not meeting in the ring is down to ducking. To me at least, fighters making excuses or changing the subject or saying one thing then doing some other **** is ducking. Imo, Santa Cruz and Frampton ducked Rigo, for example.

Anyway, what constitutes a Robbery, a fighter being exposed, or a duck to y'all? Also, feel free to cite examples to support your opinions.

Discuss below if you so choose

Robbery: Pac-Man v Horn
Exposed: Broner v Maidana
Duck: Bradley v Khan

[jack_the_rippuh]

You're a fool if you don't think Rungvisai exposed Chocolatito for being the one-dimensional fighter that he Always was. A fighter that couldn't adjust when a tougher guy 'punched with' him. FOH with that bullshit.

[Joe Beamish]

Robbery: Helenius/Chisora, Briggs/Foreman, Lara/Williams. Not Robbery: Pacquiao/Marquez II or III, Hagler/Leonard, Ward/Kovalev I.
Exposed: Tony Thompson exposed David Price. Maidana exposed Ortiz and Broner. Not exposed: Linares did not "expose" Loma because he knocked him down. Rungvisai didnt expose Chocolatito.
Duck: Lewis ducked the Klitschko rematch. He agreed to face Vitali again but changed his mind. Khan has been ducking Kell Brook for years. Not a duck: Mayweather did not duck Khan or Paul Williams. Whyte is not ducking Pulev by fighting Parker instead.

Good post, and I agree with most of this except Lewis ducking Klitschko. He tore him up pretty good in the first match, and then retired and stayed retired. Not a duck, even though he initially agreed to the rematch.

I don't consider it a duck when a guy retires and stays retired.

A duck is when a fighter doesn't face another fighter to begin with, when all signs point to it being a must-see fight (money on the table, unsettled business, the best opponent still available, what fans are crying to see.) Bowe ducked Lewis.

[N/A]

(a) Robbery.
(b) Exposed.
(c) Duck.

robbery is easy. boxer clearly wins a fight by a few rounds or more, but still doesnt get the decision.

no interest in discussing exposed.

duck is tougher as there are a few versions of ducking.

vacating a belt to avoid a mandatory the public was actually interested in seeing is a pretty blatant duck.

turning down the biggest money fight possible to take an easier fight is a pretty blatant duck.

the problem with the term is people often use it to describe avoiding a mandatory nobody wanted to see or avoiding a fight that wasnt the biggest money fight available and it's silly to describe those instances as a duck.

[Teetotaler]

a robbery was lara vs Williams

a duck is AJ turning down the biggest purse in heavyweight history

exposed is when maidana beat up broner

Another robbery was molina-lara. Molina took his ass to school

[Scipio2009]

Robbery - In it's simplest terms, when the objective flow of a round/fight is not reflected in the actual scoring of a round fight (ie Larry Merchant scoring a round for someone for simply marching forward while taking punches off of the face).


Exposed - When a fighter who is believed to be at a certain ability level, now shows less of that ability as the competition gets better (ie Chris Eubank Jr, going from being God's gift to boxing, yet actually being a good boxer-slugger with fast hands and developing craft. How good he ends up being is still for him to figure out, but he's not God's gift).

Duck - openly avoiding a fight that has no barriers (ie Sergey Kovalev walking away from the Stevenson fight, after being determined as the compelled fight, with the money split 50/50 by rule, with no TV impediment).

[Cheek busting]

robbery - a close fight can still be a robbery, there are alot of 7-5 type fights where there is a clear winner but they score it the other way or a draw. a perfect example is kovalev v ward 1

Duck- Bowe throwing his belt in the trash in order to avoid Lennox.

exposed - seth mitchell v jonothan banks

Didn't Mitchell BEAT Banks in a rematch, doe??

[Elroy The Great]

(a) Robbery.
(b) Exposed.
(c) Duck.
Discuss below if you so choose

a) when the numbers dont match the result. punchstats count. if a guy lands more than 2x his opponent and said opponent didnt score any kd, and said opponent still wins = ROBBERY
examples -
dlh vs tito
pac vs horn
pac vs timmy 1
pea vs jlr
pea vs jcc

b) the undressing of a hype job. what cal did to lacy is the definition.

c) too avoid a guy for no good reason. what srl did to hagler before he was shot.