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  • Stinger1
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    #91
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Should be commended for turning down the offer he asked for and said he'd sign?

    He's going to fight in America eventually. When he does, will you be claiming he's ****ing over his fans? Are you really that blind that you can't see "I'm doing it for the fans" is a complete BS excuse to rationalize his duck?

    The big money is in the US. Did Lennox Lewis **** over his fans? Did Ricky Hatton **** over his fans? Did Prince Naseem **** over his fans?
    I accept to make some fights they might have to go to Vegas. Deontay is getting multiple x his highest ever purse to go to the UK and will be multiple times what he can generate fighting anyone else. AJ has said he would like a second fight with Wilder to be in a stadium in the US, I don't know why you would be against that.

    As for Lennox, his whole career was in the US more or less and didn't have a big UK following. Hatton and Prince Naseem were both clearly the B sides in those fights and had little choice over where the fight took place. Ultimately the fight takes place where AJ wants it, simple as.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Biolink
      Just what is this "Good deal" Certainly not 12.5 million flat, if the fight promised to make him in excess of 20 million + in the USA.
      It's a better deal than he can get fighting anyone else. Deontay knocks out whoever he's fighting anyway so the opponent shouldn't really matter. The $20m is speculative based on x number of PPV buys, no guarantee he would make it. Eddie has upped the offer anyway so the fight should get made.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Corelone
        This is funny. The A side has less gap. We need to pity AJ, because Wilder has it easy. OK I pity the fool.
        Lmao! Seriously AJ needs to wash the sand out of his vagina, and go see the wizard of Oz for some courage..

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          #94
          Originally posted by Stinger1
          It's a better deal than he can get fighting anyone else. Deontay knocks out whoever he's fighting anyway so the opponent shouldn't really matter. The $20m is speculative based on x number of PPV buys, no guarantee he would make it. Eddie has upped the offer anyway so the fight should get made.
          What is the offer Eddie 'upped'. Based on Hearn's own forecast that the fight would only do 40 million in the UK, he can only 'up' that amount so much logically speaking without cutting into his own, it still won't be even near the low-end of 'speculative' US gate + US PPV + UK PPV.

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            #95
            Originally posted by 5000boxing
            Lmao! Seriously AJ needs to wash the sand out of his vagina, and go see the wizard of Oz for some courage..
            speaking of the wizard of oz...I saw today the last wizard of oz munchkin passed away

            it appears Joshua has munchkins for testicles

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              #96
              Originally posted by Biolink
              What is the offer Eddie 'upped'. Based on Hearn's own forecast that the fight would only do 40 million in the UK, he can only 'up' that amount so much logically speaking without cutting into his own, it still won't be even near the low-end of 'speculative' US gate + US PPV + UK PPV.
              We don't know but it seems enough to get the Wilder team interested. I would guess its some sort of % split.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Stinger1
                It's a better deal than he can get fighting anyone else. Deontay knocks out whoever he's fighting anyway so the opponent shouldn't really matter. The $20m is speculative based on x number of PPV buys, no guarantee he would make it. Eddie has upped the offer anyway so the fight should get made.
                Lmao once Wilder brutally destroys this fool.. he will retire.. afterwards AJ will have the mentally of the average great white shark bite survivor.. surfer: yoo dude.. glad u recovered from the shark attack that almost took your life.. do u want to hit the waves again? Survivor: ey,..not really.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by stinger1
                  i accept to make some fights they might have to go to vegas. Deontay is getting multiple x his highest ever purse to go to the uk and will be multiple times what he can generate fighting anyone else. Aj has said he would like a second fight with wilder to be in a stadium in the us, i don't know why you would be against that.

                  As for lennox, his whole career was in the us more or less and didn't have a big uk following. Hatton and prince naseem were both clearly the b sides in those fights and had little choice over where the fight took place. Ultimately the fight takes place where aj wants it, simple as.
                  location is not an issue for wilder all hes asking for is a decent percentage. What isnt wilder being realistic about??? Hearn isnt being realistic but for some reason you all still support how hes acting. How many times wil you all bring up wilder getting multiple his pay day and aj being the a side?? All of this is understood, aj turned down his highest payday to date in 50mil, he said hed take less money to fight at home, great.... Wilder and his team have said on multiple ocassions that fighting in the uk isnt an issue; im not sure why its being presented an an issue

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    How is it business sh^t when they are turning down more money to insist on the UK?

                    What business do you know that prefers to make less profit?
                    You are working under the assumption they'll fight next.

                    I say they won't. So this UK for less money, US for more money angle isn't even in play as I see it. Hearn is thinking Feb 2019 or I even feel like late 2019, early 2020 for even bigger money in the US or the UK or wherever the f#ck they wanna fight vs what they would make now.

                    Or Wilder gets beat & they don't gotta fight him at all & just cruise making nice bank in the meantime while trying to line up the next big opponent (Tyson Fury) who could be worth even more money potentially if they do that right, but thats a whole other story.

                    In another 12 months Hearn my wanna be avoiding Tyson too if Tyson starts looking to good although I tend to think he's less worried about Tyson than Wilder for some reason (a KO reason I presume) despite me feeling like Tyson at his best has a way better chance of beating Joshua than Wilder does.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer
                      It's not locatio because Wilder has said that he will fight in UK, but they probably need to make it worth his while considering that its an 100 million fight in the states and AJ's team are giving that up.

                      So if the pot is being shrunk on AJ's demand then Wilder should get a larger percent of this smaller pie than they initially offered.
                      Maybe idk. I just know its some cryptic type response that to me seems steered at fans more than Wilder & to fans so they know where to aim there anger if this fight doesn't get made. Joshua is trying to lay the blame on Wilder for the fight not happening despite everything being said publically by Wilder being about making the fight happen.

                      Could be he is going crazytown behind the scenes, but Wilder seems like a cat who does what he says & says what he does meanwhile Joshua is shifting his opinion moment by moment to what fits the narrative.

                      I mean going off of what Joshua said early on this fight should be netting him $50M & should be in the US. But he's backtracked off of that cuz it was a dumb thing to say & Hearn surely told him that. And ultimately Hearn knows this business & Joshua is just trying to work his way through it still as it comes to him which is gonna lend to some mistakes being made that are -EV for his bank account.

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