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  • #21
    Originally posted by hitking View Post
    Let me see if I’m following this correctly. Team AJ offers Wilder a bull**** deal. Wilder predictably rejects it. Citing that according to his representation, the fight is worth a lot more than Team AJ is claiming, as much as $100M in revenue. AJ then shoots his mouth off stating that if the fight is worth $100M, guarantee him $50M, and the fight is on. Team Wilder then calls his bluff, guarantees AJ his $50M. But understandably, since they’re gonna finance the event, they wanna call the shots. The biggest shot being holding the fight in the US. You wouldn’t think that would be a problem. I mean, AJ would be getting his $50M guarantee. But all of a sudden, AJ has a change of heart, and says he’s willing to fight for less money, but the fight has to be in the U.K. Wilder again says no problem. And now all of a sudden Wilder needs to be realistic. Realistic about what? What new roadblock has Team AJ created that Wilder needs to be realistic about?
    Pretty much on point...

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    • #22
      Hopefully PEDvetkin knocks him out so we can get a Melanin Rocky vs Russian PED cheat thing going!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
        Can someone tell AJ that's how boxing works. You beat one person, you fight the next. It's always been like this, it gets more demanding, especially after you declare yourself the king of a division. What a funny thing to say.
        aah .. I see the issue he looked at Wilders record defense against some one outside the WBC #10 followed by somebody else outside .. even one out ranked .. looks easy.

        AJ fought Vlad, Mandatory, Unification and now possibly another unification and if not the LDBC lot will slaugther him for taking on the mandatory #3 heavyweight in the world .. who else is fighting that level of quality match after match ...

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        • #24
          Not really, tbh

          Originally posted by sportbuddha View Post
          He’s making a fair point, everyone will always ask ‘who next’, no one is asking who next for Wilder because his alt to AJ is Brezeale, which is a big gap in quality. Wilder or Povetkin not much of a gap in quality if any.
          If Joshua fights Wilder next and wins (likely the two-fight deal), he'd next fight Povetkin, and then he'd be in the mandatory rotation; Charr-Oquendo winner (WBA), Pulev-Whyte winner (IBF), a possible Breazeale-Ortiz winner (WBC), and Tyson Fury (WBO).

          Clear Wilder and Fury, and it'll be a bit before Joyce/DuBois/Yoka get passed that bumper crop of quality heavyweight fighters (Ortiz can get old, Wilder is still young, Puleve/Parker/Breazeale/Miller, etc) to even come close to saying anything about being a Boogeyman to anyone.


          Deontay Wilder is finally getting his run; it took 7 successful title defenses, but at least it's here now to build the attention in. Breazeale is a good, but not great fight (can go anywhere with that one, but would make sense to fight in California/Nevada/Alabama; pairing that with SEC Football on CBS could be special). Throw in Kownacki at Barclays Center, in another solid fight, and you've got two fights in hand to build attention with.

          Luis Ortiz gets a performance in, where he looks good and sharp, and you can test Wilder's first PPV with Wilder-Ortiz 2.

          10 defenses in, and you start telling stories beyond the actual fight.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by DougalDylan View Post
            aah .. I see the issue he looked at Wilders record defense against some one outside the WBC #10 followed by somebody else outside .. even one out ranked .. looks easy.

            AJ fought Vlad, Mandatory, Unification and now possibly another unification and if not the LDBC lot will slaugther him for taking on the mandatory #3 heavyweight in the world .. who else is fighting that level of quality match after match ...
            Why is AJ balking then? What makes Wilder special? All Wilder has is 50 million dollars. Now all of a sudden, all money ain't good money?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
              Can someone tell AJ that's how boxing works. You beat one person, you fight the next. It's always been like this, it gets more demanding, especially after you declare yourself the king of a division. What a funny thing to say.
              More demanding ? What about the fighters wilder has faced since he has become WBC champion ? Would your class spilka and washingtom more demading than a klitchcko or parker ? I don't thnk so lol

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              • #27
                Originally posted by hitking View Post
                Let me see if I’m following this correctly. Team AJ offers Wilder a bull**** deal. Wilder predictably rejects it. Citing that according to his representation, the fight is worth a lot more than Team AJ is claiming, as much as $100M in revenue. AJ then shoots his mouth off stating that if the fight is worth $100M, guarantee him $50M, and the fight is on. Team Wilder then calls his bluff, guarantees AJ his $50M. But understandably, since they’re gonna finance the event, they wanna call the shots. The biggest shot being holding the fight in the US. You wouldn’t think that would be a problem. I mean, AJ would be getting his $50M guarantee. But all of a sudden, AJ has a change of heart, and says he’s willing to fight for less money, but the fight has to be in the U.K. Wilder again says no problem. And now all of a sudden Wilder needs to be realistic. Realistic about what? What new roadblock has Team AJ created that Wilder needs to be realistic about?
                Do not forget that AJ and company were more than willing to stage a fight against Miller in the US. And more than likely that fight would had generated much less than a Wilder fight would at this point.

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                • #28
                  AJ will take less to fight in the UK. He probably wants $49 million.

                  Does he really think that the Wilder team are going to pay him a bunch of money to fight in the UK and they can't control the promotion and the event?


                  Hearn ALWAYS vocal and dealing thru the media but won't reveal what offer they did to Wilder this time.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by hitking View Post
                    Let me see if I’m following this correctly. Team AJ offers Wilder a bull**** deal. Wilder predictably rejects it. Citing that according to his representation, the fight is worth a lot more than Team AJ is claiming, as much as $100M in revenue. AJ then shoots his mouth off stating that if the fight is worth $100M, guarantee him $50M, and the fight is on. Team Wilder then calls his bluff, guarantees AJ his $50M. But understandably, since they’re gonna finance the event, they wanna call the shots. The biggest shot being holding the fight in the US. You wouldn’t think that would be a problem. I mean, AJ would be getting his $50M guarantee. But all of a sudden, AJ has a change of heart, and says he’s willing to fight for less money, but the fight has to be in the U.K. Wilder again says no problem. And now all of a sudden Wilder needs to be realistic. Realistic about what? What new roadblock has Team AJ created that Wilder needs to be realistic about?
                    All will be revealed my condescending friend

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                    • #30
                      Everybody thinks they're Mayweather these days.

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