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  • Chuckguy
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    #251
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    fk clenelo

    I am making sure that Golovkin fans put the blame where it lies for Golovkin being stripped by the IBF

    clenelo did not select Vanes, instead of fighting his mando Derevyanchenko ..... Golovkin did
    Only ones crying are maxi and that other tool lol

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #252
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
      Why are they pointless?

      because, fighting/beating Derevy, Charlo, or even Saunders..... will not make Golovkin undisputed

      forget Saunders..... they have never shown any genuine interest in Saunders, they just walked away from two prime opportunities to fight him

      right now, Saunders should be Golovkin's Plan B if no Canelo fight..... but, they have not even mentioned him, despite Saunders also offering to fight them in June

      but they have mentioned Murata.... ALL of them mentioned him lol.

      that Saunders talk was all pipe dreams, just like all that Ward talk

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      • Chuckguy
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        #253
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        because, fighting/beating Derevy, Charlo, or even Saunders..... will not make Golovkin undisputed

        forget Saunders..... they have never shown any genuine interest in Saunders, they just walked away from two prime opportunities to fight him

        right now, Saunders should be Golovkin's Plan B if no Canelo fight..... but, they have not even mentioned him, despite Saunders also offering to fight them in June

        but they have mentioned Murata.... ALL of them mentioned him lol.

        that Saunders talk was all pipe dreams, just like all that Ward talk
        So in your opinion ggg has to fight canelo and win to be undisputed?

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        • Mirus
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          #254
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          fk clenelo

          I am making sure that Golovkin fans put the blame where it lies for Golovkin being stripped by the IBF

          clenelo did not select Vanes, instead of fighting his mando Derevyanchenko ..... Golovkin did
          I don't defend GGG, for fighting Vanes, that was ****** fight. GGG did ****** move by fighting Vanes.
          but there was similar history with clenelo when he fought Amir Khan even though GGG was waiting wbc title shot for more than a year. And clenelo chose Smith by vacating wbc. Before the amir khan fight, clenelo also lied, he said he will fight ggg after amir khan. So your claim "canelo didn't lie" is pointless.

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            #255
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            So in your opinion ggg has to fight canelo and win to be undisputed?


            no

            fk clenelo, he is nothing

            and its not about my opinion..... Golovkin would need to hold the WBA WBC WBO and IBF..... currently, he only holds the WBC and the WBA, and the WBC have ordered him to fight Charlo

            so, he would need to beat Charlo, Saunders, and whoever ends up with the IBF..... and imho, NONE of those fights will happen,. let alone ALL of them..... which would need to be the case

            and I say that for the reason I mentioned earlier

            they have never made a genuine move on Saunders, and recently, they passed on two opportunities to fight him..... which tells me that unification was never their dream

            Saunders has been the missing piece of the puzzle for years, but they showed little/no genuine interest in him..... preferring to wait for him to lose, hopefully to an opponent who would be more "available" (flat-footed) for Golovkin..... or be stripped, etc

            if being " undisputed " aint gonna happen, then why would Golovkin want to mess around with Charlo/etc.....? guys with no real monetary value?

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            • Chuckguy
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              #256
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              no

              fk clenelo, he is nothing

              and its not about my opinion..... Golovkin would need to hold the WBA WBC WBO and IBF..... currently, he only holds the WBC and the WBA, and the WBC have ordered him to fight Charlo

              so, he would need to beat Charlo, Saunders, and whoever ends up with the IBF..... and imho, NONE of those fights will happen,. let alone ALL of them..... which would need to be the case

              and I say that for the reason I mentioned earlier

              they have never made a genuine move on Saunders, and recently, they passed on two opportunities to fight him..... which tells me that unification was never their dream

              Saunders has been the missing piece of the puzzle for years, but they showed little/no genuine interest in him..... preferring to wait for him to lose, hopefully to an opponent who would be more "available" (flat-footed) for Golovkin..... or be stripped, etc

              if being " undisputed " aint gonna happen, then why would Golovkin want to mess around with Charlo/etc.....? guys with no real monetary value?
              You make no sense time. I was honestly just asking for your specific opinion

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                #257
                Originally posted by Mirus
                I don't defend GGG, for fighting Vanes, that was ****** fight. GGG did ****** move by fighting Vanes.
                but there was similar history with clenelo when he fought Amir Khan even though GGG was waiting wbc title shot for more than a year. And clenelo chose Smith by vacating wbc. Before the amir khan fight, clenelo also lied, he said he will fight ggg after amir khan. So your claim "canelo didn't lie" is pointless.


                FACT: before both the Khan and Smith fights, Golovkin had an opportunity to land that fight with Canelo

                BOTH of those negotiations died when Golovkin totally refused to negotiate on weight

                interestingly, despite refusing to negotiate on weight with SUPERSTARS like Cotto and Canelo..... immediately prior to the Brook fight, Golovkin stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up lol

                AGAIN..... just making sure that silly Golovkin fans don't blame clenelo for ****** decisions that were made by Golovkin

                it is EXACTLY the same thing'

                this discussion requires maturity AND honesty

                just saying

                Golovkin offered Rosado a catchweight..... and he was willing to fight every other JMW at 154..... just not Canelo lol

                the fact is, he could have made that fight, but he chose not to

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  You make no sense time. I was honestly just asking for your specific opinion

                  and I gave it to you

                  the answer is, no

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                  • Kris Silver
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                    #259
                    What a prolonged wierd situation that's circumstantial.

                    GGG has been THE champ and guy at MW for years. Canelo took a while to really fight at the weight. Popular opinion was he lost to GGG and others.

                    He gets penalised for peds in his system whether intentional or not. Drops out of the rematch.

                    And somehow Canelo is champ, demanding or at least Oscar is, more than 50% or no fight.

                    What the hell man.

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                      #260
                      Originally posted by Kris Silver
                      What a prolonged wierd situation that's circumstantial.

                      GGG has been THE champ and guy at MW for years. Canelo took a while to really fight at the weight. Popular opinion was he lost to GGG and others.

                      He gets penalised for peds in his system whether intentional or not. Drops out of the rematch.

                      And somehow Canelo is champ, demanding or at least Oscar is, more than 50% or no fight.

                      What the hell man.


                      the issue was..... selecting Vanes over Derevyanchenko

                      it really was absurd

                      that decision had nothing to do with Canelo

                      it was absurd

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