Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Canelo-Jacobs Deal in Play, No 50-50 For Golovkin

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  • Verus
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    #321
    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
    So you think Canelo will get a bigger purse fighting Jacobs than for fighting Golovkin. Interesting.

    Regarding storylines I expect there to be one of how Canelo drained Jacobs down to his costum 155 lb division.
    I don't think that Canelo will get a bigger purse fighting Jacobs. I said, "Both will make good money." So you expect Canelo to drain Jacobs to 155 lbs for the fight. I will take you at your word. I see that reading and reasoning are not your strong suits.

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    • BigStomps
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      #322
      Originally posted by millcitymauler
      Ummm... you have absolutely nothing to do with the negotiations.
      Never said I did

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      • QballLobo
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        #323
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Will it be PPV? How much do you reckon Canelos purse would be for Jacobs?
        Canelo vs anyone on Mexican Independence weekend is a PPV fight. Even if it sells 600k Canelo probably gets a 90/10 split or Jacobs gets a flat fee with little to no PPV upside. Plus that weekend the television money for Mexico all goes to Canelo. He probably makes just as much or just less with him getting the majority.

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        • Diego Rodriguez
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          #324
          Originally posted by SteveM
          Admire Golovkin for being principled but horrible business decision. If he was offered 60/40 and didn't take it that is just ******.
          So he was apparently offered 40%. I think that was a bad business decision on his part. I do not think it was because he was ducking or any dumb crap like that. He obviously feels he deserves it. I do not agree and I am a big Golovkin fan.

          I think the risk of him or Canelo losing is real. Maybe he thinks the fight can wait but I would rather not risk it.

          Hopefully both guys engage in meaningful fights going forward.

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          • Southpawology
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            #325
            God I hope Jacobs wins and then when canelo begs him for a rematch jacobs takes his ball and goes home, or gives GGG a rematch instead LMAOOO would be KARMA.

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            • Diego Rodriguez
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              #326
              Originally posted by j0zef
              The reason I don't buy any of this is because Canelo and Golden Boy makes more money with Golovkin at 50/50 than they do against virtually anyone else. Even if they by some miracle can get 800k PPV buys against Jacobs at 70/30, that's 800k*$70 = $56m / 2 =~28m * 70% = 19.6m
              Golovkin at 50/50, even if you go conservative and project only 1.2m PPVs, you're looking at 1.2m*$70 = 84m/2 = 42m * 50% = 21m.

              And the important part to note is that those are very conservative estimates for Golovkin and highly optimistic for Jacobs. Canelo sells 300-500k PPVs against non-PPV fighters (Khan & Smith). I don't think Jacobs is nearly as popular as Khan. If you take a shot in the dark and say Jacobs will do somewhere between them, you're looking at 400k PPVs which generates Canelo less than $10M.

              On the opposite spectrum is Golovkin rematch. The post fight has had a LOT of talk and a lot of drama, it got built up very well over the past 9 months. Realistically, it can hit 2M buys. Let's say it's slightly under that, 1.8m PPVs. Due to the magnitude of the fight, they can also charge a higher price for it (remember $100 for Floyd-Pac?). Say it's $80 for HD instead of 70. All of a sudden you're looking at $80*1.8m = $144m / 2 = $72m * 50% = $36M.


              If you're not interested in the math, the short story is that everyone says that Golovkin is in the twilight of his career and can not walk away from $25-30M he's scheduled to make against Canelo. Well at 50/50%, the opposite applies to Canelo - he's also looking at same $25-30M, something he can't do against any of the current opponents.
              Both guys are going to make substantially less money than they could. I'm a Golovkin fan and if he got 40% I think he should have taken it. But if he thinks 50/50, well it's his right. He already fought Canelo and signed up to fight him again so there is no ducking or fear of Canelo. This is purely him doing what he believes he thinks is fair.

              Both guys are going to make good money if they keep winning. Since they apparently aren't going to fight I just hope, and no excuses they should, face top quality competition.

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              • BattlingNelson
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                #327
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                More than 50/50 with GGG most likely. Dont really care either. GGG killed the fight move on. Worry about who GGG fights next. Hope its not another Vanes type.

                But who knows?? Maybe it will be another no hoper praying that Jacobs/Canelo tanks and they come crawling back to GGG saying 50/50 does now seem fair.
                Well I don’t blame GGG for Canelo juicing and cancelling their fight. Fck Canelo. Let him fight Jacobs for money and claim a mandatory position for mw glory. Idc.

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                • BigStomps
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                  #328
                  Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
                  ummm Team Fishnets can fight
                  100s of Jacobs and Lemiuex. All road leads to them belts, and it sure as f-k will be 50/50 split. So fishnets can shove another
                  spoon and stfu.
                  Stop hating fool! Canelo will never give any fighter 50% of the money in a fight against him. I don't care how many piece of shet belts the other fighter has. When your the biggest star in boxing the way Canelo is you can do that. That's a fact! So run along and go cry about it little boy!

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                  • Senor_frogs
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                    #329
                    Originally posted by chubuk7
                    Today GGG deserves a 50%. He's a champion and clean. Eventually they will want a belt from GGG then everything changes. No 50/50 split for Canelo. Karma,
                    GGG is gonna have to fight his mandatories next. Charlo or Derev. He can loose a belt either way. Stripped or by a L. No more fighting cans.

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                    • Iron Fister
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                      #330
                      Canelo fighting Spike in black face and his fanbase gonna think it's Jacobs

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