Comments Thread For: Fury Does Not Expect Network Conflicts To Derail a Joshua Fight

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I disagree with you on Ortiz not giving Wilder more hell than Wlad gave AJ. Sure, AJ got dropped, but he got back up and avoided getting dropped again. I was especially impressed with how he made Wlad miss after getting up from the KD. Wilder was out on his feet, stumbling around and didn't throw much of anything back after Ortiz caught him. In fact, a different ref might have stopped the fight at that point.

I'll agree with you on Wlad not being disinterested. You're right; he actually seemed unable to cope with a fighter with as much size and perhaps more reach than himself.

Sorry, getting rocked is one thing, getting dropped is another! If Wlad wasn't 41, and inactive too, fight is finished!

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Sorry, getting rocked is one thing, getting dropped is another! If Wlad wasn't 41, and inactive too, fight is finished!

You saw a rocked Wilder, I saw an out on his feet, no-offense Wilder.

And I could say the same: A younger, better-conditioned Ortiz would have ended Wilder!

[Bronx2245]

You saw a rocked Wilder, I saw an out on his feet, no-offense Wilder.

And I could say the same: A younger, better-conditioned Ortiz would have ended Wilder!

A younger better conditioned Ortiz would have beaten Wlad, AJ, and Wilder! Glad that Wilder was man enough to give King Kong a shot! Whyte just swerved Ortiz the other day! It is what it is! A Cuban-trained southpaw HW with KO power! Nobody seems to want that smoke!

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A younger better conditioned Ortiz would have beaten Wlad, AJ, and Wilder! Glad that Wilder was man enough to give King Kong a shot! Whyte just swerved Ortiz the other day! It is what it is! A Cuban-trained southpaw HW with KO power! Nobody seems to want that smoke!

Agreed, but as I said before, with Whyte already as the #1 contender to Wilder's belt, he shouldn't have to fight the guy who just lost to him. But definitely, the risk is greater than the reward.

Wilder ducked Whyte because he knows that he's dangerous. If Dillian did face and manage defeat Ortiz, I bet you Deontay would look for another way out. Case in point, the teaser announcement that he's considering moving down to CW. Slipping in the statement that he'd do it after unifying @ HW is just a way to save face. Why would a dominant, undefeated HW even consider that?

[Bronx2245]

Agreed, but as I said before, with Whyte already as the #1 contender to Wilder's belt, he shouldn't have to fight the guy who just lost to him. But definitely, the risk is greater than the reward.

Wilder ducked Whyte because he knows that he's dangerous. If Dillian did face and manage defeat Ortiz, I bet you Deontay would look for another way out. Case in point, the teaser announcement that he's considering moving down to CW. Slipping in the statement that he'd do it after unifying @ HW is just a way to save face. Why would a dominant, undefeated HW even consider that?

He would do it to be a multi-division champion, and I believe he would be the first to do it! It's not gonna happen, so don't sweat it! Deontay was all in for Whyte, as long as Hearn promised him AJ afterwards! Hearn said no. FACTS!

March 28, 2018:

Nothing Deontay Wilder saw Saturday or at any other point of Dillian Whyte’s career makes him hesitant to fight Whyte.

If Wilder were to agree to make his next title defense against Whyte, though, that contract would need to assure the unbeaten WBC heavyweight champion that a fight against Anthony Joshua would come next. Eddie Hearn promotes Joshua and Whyte, which makes Wilder’s proposition realistic...

“They put Joshua on the end of that contract [to fight Whyte], it’s a fight,” Wilder told BoxingScene.com on Wednesday. “It’s a fight. We’ll bring Dillian Whyte right here to America, and we’ll whip his ass. That’s easy. This is not hard. None of this stuff is really hard. They’re making it hard. It’s not hard on our part. It’s hard on their part because there’s so much to lose...”

Wilder won’t budge from his stance that he won’t make an optional defense versus Whyte unless that contract stipulates that he’ll get England’s Joshua next, assuming the heavily favored IBF/IBO/WBA champ overcomes New Zealand’s Parker (24-0, 18 KOs), the WBO champ.

“That’s why he’s so mad, because his plans have been derailed,” Wilder said regarding Hearn. “It backfired on him. It wasn’t never about me and Joshua. It was about me and his other fighter. We’re just not in the business of that. I have no problem fighting whoever he wants me to fight, as long as he puts Joshua on the end of that contract. I’m fine with that. Even if he wants me to fight his other fighter, Dillian Whyte, I don’t have a problem with it. Let him fight [Luis] Ortiz, and if he beats Ortiz, I’ll fight him. Or put Joshua on the end of the contract, and then I’ll fight him."

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-i...t-next--126652

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Whyte isn't even involved right now and Wilder still won't sign for the fight because contract issues are too complicated.

Wilder knew that putting Joshua into a stipulation with a Whyte fight was a contractual and legal nightmare and could never happen. It was just another excuse to duck Whyte that his fans would gobble up.

He doesn't have to fight Whyte now and he's still delaying for the Bumzeale fight.

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He would do it to be a multi-division champion, and I believe he would be the first to do it! It's not gonna happen, so don't sweat it! Deontay was all in for Whyte, as long as Hearn promised him AJ afterwards! Hearn said no. FACTS!

March 28, 2018:

Nothing Deontay Wilder saw Saturday or at any other point of Dillian Whyte’s career makes him hesitant to fight Whyte.

If Wilder were to agree to make his next title defense against Whyte, though, that contract would need to assure the unbeaten WBC heavyweight champion that a fight against Anthony Joshua would come next. Eddie Hearn promotes Joshua and Whyte, which makes Wilder’s proposition realistic...

“They put Joshua on the end of that contract [to fight Whyte], it’s a fight,” Wilder told BoxingScene.com on Wednesday. “It’s a fight. We’ll bring Dillian Whyte right here to America, and we’ll whip his ass. That’s easy. This is not hard. None of this stuff is really hard. They’re making it hard. It’s not hard on our part. It’s hard on their part because there’s so much to lose...”

Wilder won’t budge from his stance that he won’t make an optional defense versus Whyte unless that contract stipulates that he’ll get England’s Joshua next, assuming the heavily favored IBF/IBO/WBA champ overcomes New Zealand’s Parker (24-0, 18 KOs), the WBO champ.

“That’s why he’s so mad, because his plans have been derailed,” Wilder said regarding Hearn. “It backfired on him. It wasn’t never about me and Joshua. It was about me and his other fighter. We’re just not in the business of that. I have no problem fighting whoever he wants me to fight, as long as he puts Joshua on the end of that contract. I’m fine with that. Even if he wants me to fight his other fighter, Dillian Whyte, I don’t have a problem with it. Let him fight [Luis] Ortiz, and if he beats Ortiz, I’ll fight him. Or put Joshua on the end of the contract, and then I’ll fight him."

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-i...t-next--126652

Of course Wilder isn't dropping down to CW, we all know that. It's just ridiculous that he would open his mouth to say some silly shit like that, just as it was to say he wants to kill someone in the ring. He's an attention whore who doesn't generate positive attention from his antics. And of course he would say that he saw nothing from Whyte that would make him hesitant to fight him. Did you expect him to say, "Man, that Dillian Whyte is a bad mofo, I don't want none of that!"?

It would have made no sense for Hearn to guarantee Wilder a Joshua fight if he lost to or struggled with Whyte. It would hurt the revenue generation potential in an AJ fight if he did. Those in the know realize that the jury is still out on whether Wilder would easily defeat Whyte or if he can at all. Per your referenced article, it's clear that Deontay doesn't want Dillian. Stipulating first that he must get a guaranteed fight with Joshua, then saying that Whyte has to beat Ortiz are built in fail-safes to avoid Dillian. Why? Because he knew Hearn wouldn't agree due to the reason stated above. And he knew Whyte wouldn't agree, because he was already at the #1 spot and feels he shouldn't have to fight in a final eliminator to get a title shot.