Why Golovkin IS Avoiding The Rematch

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  • turnedup
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    #61
    Originally posted by kafkod
    Ah .. that Nigel! One of the best UK fighters ever and a real gentleman outside the ropes. He's a man with a big heart, in more ways than one.

    Here's a video about the Benn/McClellon fight and its aftermath. Nigel organised a fundraising event for Gerald and they met up for the first time since the fight just before it was held. If your a sentimental type, like me, get a handkerchief or a box of tissues ready, because it's very moving.

    I set the video to start at the point where the meeting happens. But if you haven't seen the whole thing, I recommend it highly.

    I've met my fair share of fighters, he is my favorite meet by far. Such a normal person and really should get more prominence on the networks out there.

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    • koolkc107
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      #62
      The problem is Golovkin was in for the same exact 35% for September that he would have got May 5th.

      G only changed his mind and instructed Loeffler to renegotiate for 50/50 IN LATE MAY, after finding out at a meeting with the IBF that he would be stripped for not honoring the promise he made to Derevyanchenko.

      See, G promised the IBF he would fight his mandatory in exchange for them sanctioning Vanes. He could have fought Derevyanchenko on May 5th but chose not to, probably thinking the unification with the lineal would trump what he promised.

      The IBF told him that wasn't the case in late May, about a week before June 1st. Told him they didn't care if he fought Canelo in September and that he would be stripped for not fighting his mando next as he promised.

      And THAT is when G decided he needed half.

      Does that change anyone's opinion?

      (probably not)

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      • Curt Henning
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        #63
        Originally posted by koolkc107
        The problem is Golovkin was in for the same exact 35% for September that he would have got May 5th.

        G only changed his mind and instructed Loeffler to renegotiate for 50/50 IN LATE MAY, after finding out at a meeting with the IBF that he would be stripped for not honoring the promise he made to Derevyanchenko.

        See, G promised the IBF he would fight his mandatory in exchange for them sanctioning Vanes. He could have fought Derevyanchenko on May 5th but chose not to, probably thinking the unification with the lineal would trump what he promised.

        The IBF told him that wasn't the case in late May, about a week before June 1st. Told him they didn't care if he fought Canelo in September and that he would be stripped for not fighting his mando next as he promised.

        And THAT is when G decided he needed half.

        Does that change anyone's opinion?

        (probably not)
        the sad part is his fans tried to convince us, and themselves, that he actually deserves the 50 percent...lol

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        • Illmatic94
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          #64
          lil g asking for 50-50 is a duck move. period.

          Oscar and Gomez already said they're moving on yet Loeffler is still ass sniffing begging for more talks.

          he accuses Canelo of being a career doper, says the NSAC are *********s, makes a commercial popping sht then he comes to the table asking for "fairness" GTFOH lol.

          he has nobody but himself to blame for his IBF dilemma. yes it's Canelo's fault the rematch was cancelled. but it's not Canelo's fault Vanes was chosen as replacement.

          Derev was ready and willing and Loeffler made up a bunch of dumb sht to duck him. they made their bed. lay in it.

          he could've faced BJS on two separate occasions but didn't because that Canelo money was more important than being undipusted. but he's not a businessman lol.

          Canelo will not budge from 35% and in fact he can lower it further because Golovkin has been ass sniffing and begging Canelo for money going on almost 5 years now.

          this fraud told people his dream was "all the belts" yet has spent years chasing behind a beltless fighter.

          he played that A side game with Ward and his minions loved it. now they're like "why you wanna talk about the money I'm just a fan doe." LMAO.

          lil g will keep begging and sniffing ass because he has no intentions to face Charlo no time soon. and he doesn't wanna fight Derev because it'll make him peanuts compared to Canelo.

          lil g is boxed in.

          "Canelo needs GGG to repair his image" false. if he beats Golovkin they'll say he was juiced. the same people who cried for a hair test are still btching about the same thing today.

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          • bboy80
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            #65
            Dude just wants some more cash, and who can blame him. He's 36, the champ, and just fought to a draw with a dodgy ref. Then ole ginger nuts fails the tests twice.

            Put yourself in his shoes, you'd want alot more money in that contract.

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            • koolkc107
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              #66
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              the sad part is his fans tried to convince us, and themselves, that he actually deserves the 50 percent...lol
              Yeah, that was kinda pathetic.

              Then you ask them how and why and they got nothing.

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              • koolkc107
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                #67
                Originally posted by Illmatic94
                lil g asking for 50-50 is a duck move. period.

                Oscar and Gomez already said they're moving on yet Loeffler is still ass sniffing begging for more talks.

                he accuses Canelo of being a career doper, says the NSAC are *********s, makes a commercial popping sht then he comes to the table asking for "fairness" GTFOH lol.

                he has nobody but himself to blame for his IBF dilemma. yes it's Canelo's fault the rematch was cancelled. but it's not Canelo's fault Vanes was chosen as replacement.

                Derev was ready and willing and Loeffler made up a bunch of dumb sht to duck him. they made their bed. lay in it.

                he could've faced BJS on two separate occasions but didn't because that Canelo money was more important than being undipusted. but he's not a businessman lol.

                Canelo will not budge from 35% and in fact he can lower it further because Golovkin has been ass sniffing and begging Canelo for money going on almost 5 years now.

                this fraud told people his dream was "all the belts" yet has spent years chasing behind a beltless fighter.

                he played that A side game with Ward and his minions loved it. now they're like "why you wanna talk about the money I'm just a fan doe." LMAO.

                lil g will keep begging and sniffing ass because he has no intentions to face Charlo no time soon. and he doesn't wanna fight Derev because it'll make him peanuts compared to Canelo.

                lil g is boxed in.

                "Canelo needs GGG to repair his image" false. if he beats Golovkin they'll say he was juiced. the same people who cried for a hair test are still btching about the same thing today.
                That's exactly the part his fans are not getting.

                He is boxed in AND it's his own fault- ALL OF IT.

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                • Archie_Leach
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by koolkc107
                  When you take everything into account, it's pretty clear that Triple G is no longer interested in meeting Canelo in the ring.

                  This was pretty evident by the language used by Golovkin after finding out about the failed tests. He called Canelo a cheat and tried to call his whole career into question. Then, on top of that bad feeling, he is asking for a renegotiation that translates into at least an extra 10 million dollars.

                  No one should expect an extra 10 million simply because they had to wait a few months for a big payday.

                  It's not like I am this huge Canelo fan, but I know bullcrap when I see it, and Golovkin is full of it here.

                  He is looking for a way out.

                  And BTW, if someone is maintaining they are innocent, saying that the positive test was an accident- and apparently taking the steps to have hair sample testing and entering a 24/7/365 testing program- wouldn't renegotiating an already agreed upon contract be interpreted by some as a tacit admission of wrongdoing?

                  Golovkin has to know that, given Canelo's position on what happened, HE CAN'T RENEGOTIATE WITHOUT SOME SEEING IT AS KNOWLEDGE OF GUILT.

                  Again, this is why it has to be Golovkin's fault.

                  I know some will see different, and that's OK.

                  Just be sure to back your rebuttals with sound reasoning and facts.

                  You are fake news...

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                  • koolkc107
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Archie_Leach
                    You are fake news...
                    Nothing fake about the news that Golovkin was fine with 35% until late May, when he found out the IBF was going to strip him for ducking Derevyanchenko. It was only then that he instructed Loeffler to ask for 50/50.

                    It's his own fault.

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                    • Mr.MojoRisin'
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                      #70
                      Golovkin-Canelo II is no longer an interesting fight with respect to the other fights that could be made. I'd rather see GGG-BJS, GGG-Charlo, or even GGG-Andrade. I really don't care about Derevyanchenko. With all due respect he's a ****ing nobody with like 12 fights. His latest fight was against a guy with literally as many loses as he does wins and almost as many knockout losses as knockout wins. Derevyanchenko does not deserve that number 1 ranking it's mind boggling how he even got it. All 3 guys I mentioned as potential Golovkin opponents would whoop him.

                      As far as Canelo goes, he had his chance to beat up Golovkin. He had 12 rounds to do it and he couldn't. He got his ass kicked and won barely 3 or 4 rounds. His cry baby negotiation tactics robbed boxing of what could have been Golovkin in the ring two other times. I don't know why people tune in to watch Canelo fight, he's a cherry picker that takes the easiest fights he can get.

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