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  • Holler
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    #71
    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
    your point is mute because prime already offers Showtime and HBO with out a cable subscription. HBO and Showtime both offer app use which includes live events, with out a cable subscription. Why would I purchase DAZN when I can use prime, get all the streaming I want, plus live events from HBO and Showtime? Hearn'll make some money, but the big dogs remain big for a reason, they already did/doing what Hearn is just starting to do.
    I don't believe that makes my point moot?

    If the cable system goes then Showtime and HBO will struggle to continue in their current form. I'm not saying they won't. HBO have a very clever guy advising them on future trends and I'm sure both companies are all over this, but their existing model of operation is in serious danger. They may not be around in their current form in a few years, big changes happpen very quickly in media.

    Maybe DAZN fails, most start-ups do. What they're attempting to provide however may be a much better model for a sustainable sports platform in the post cable milieu. So they have a chance.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      It's not Eddie vs Haymon; it's Eddie vs Showtime/CBS.

      For a moment, imagine if those old Haymon/ITV numbers were true, Haymon got $100m to deliver 20 shows a year, and he went after Eddie Hearn. "Hey, I understand that Joshua, Bellew, Brook, and Khan are basically set on Sky Box Office, but I'm ready to pay you a clear premium to bring Buatsi, Josh Kelly, the Yafai brothers, Whyte, and basically everyone else under your banner over to ITV; if any of the ITV fighters become Box Office caliber, you can take them onto your Sky Box Office deal, and we'd split the proceeds".

      The outright dollar amount would draw note, but Hearn is sharp enough to take that and weigh it against the entire package that Sky Sports offers his boxers.

      What Eddie is trying to do isn't all that different
      It is because Al Haymon is manager not a competing promoter. Haymon only has a pre-existing relationship with Showtime, there is nothing to suggest that he will be loyal to Showtime. He should and I think will be loyal to his fighters which is to get them the best purses possible.

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        #73
        Originally posted by 5000boxing
        I wonder how long he can swim in the deep blue.. I mean, yes he's a shark.. maybe even a great white.. I mean, he kinda had to be in order to be as successful as he is in the U.K. but the true entertainment is in wondering if he even realized he's in the great games now???. he's a great white swimming with Orcas!!! Whatever kinda shark he was before he came here is irrelevant. He's swimming with the Killer whales now.. might as well be a seal covered in chum.. would make for a quicker and tastier meal. Lol.
        Lol, I totally agree with you. The two biggest sharks here in the states are Bob Arum and Al Haymon.
        Then you got smaller sharks like Oscar and Mayweather among others.... It's not gonna be easy for him to crack the American market, I don't give a fucc how much money he got.... So we'll wait and see how successful he is here in the states...

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #74
          Originally posted by Holler
          He won't tell you and neither will the fighters. Unlike Broner there are people that understand the implications of an NDA.

          Expect a choreographed announcement synchronised with the first details of the subscription. Maybe they'll give the first month away free to get as many as possible using the service.
          Nothing is a secret in this game...

          The truth is Hearn doesn’t have the pull in America to sign big name fighters. The only way he can do it is to ridiculously overpay them like he is doing Danny Jacobs, the moment he ******ly announced
          he had “1 billion” he dramatically inflated the entire US market. Now he’s got guys like AB clowning him😂😂. Hearn is having an absolute nightmare so far, but we all knew he would.
          The big fish has left the small pond and now he’s swimming with the sharks...

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            #75
            Originally posted by Crushinator
            yeah still waiting for this guy to have the biggest uk fights of all time, big mouth aint even staged a small hall show yet
            Your point is...???

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            • Holler
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              #76
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              Nothing is a secret in this game...

              The truth is Hearn doesn’t have the pull in America to sign big name fighters. The only way he can do it is to ridiculously overpay them like he is doing Danny Jacobs, the moment he ******ly announced
              he had “1 billion” he dramatically inflated the entire US market. Now he’s got guys like AB clowning him😂😂. Hearn is having an absolute nightmare so far, but we all knew he would.
              The big fish has left the small pond and now he’s swimming with the sharks...
              Lets see how it pans out. I think there were good reasons for hyping the billion figure but time will tell.

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #77
                Originally posted by Holler
                Lets see how it pans out. I think there were good reasons for hyping the billion figure but time will tell.
                He should have at least made some concrete deals first which he clearly hasn’t. The moment Hearn announced the “billion dollar war chest”. Every potential fighter realised he has A LOT of money and NEEDS to sign fighters by September. Hearn announcing that has lost him so much leverage in potential negotiations. Rookie error.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  Nothing is a secret in this game...

                  The truth is Hearn doesn’t have the pull in America to sign big name fighters. The only way he can do it is to ridiculously overpay them like he is doing Danny Jacobs, the moment he ******ly announced
                  he had “1 billion” he dramatically inflated the entire US market. Now he’s got guys like AB clowning him😂😂. Hearn is having an absolute nightmare so far, but we all knew he would.
                  The big fish has left the small pond and now he’s swimming with the sharks...
                  Think your reading of the AB situation is wrong. The truth is does he really want/need AB? If I was Hearn, AB is someone I wouldn't overpay. We'll see who he has managed to sign in a couple of weeks.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Stinger1
                    Weird to me that so many people on here think this is some sort of Haymon v Hearn battle. If Haymon is the guy everyone says he is, his guys will sign with Hearn if it is the right deal. Al takes a % of the fighter's purses so if Eddie pays them more than what they're getting elsewhere and gets them to box more regularly then its more money for him and his fighters.
                    This.

                    It could be PBC as we knew it doesn't exist anymore and DAZN and PBC aren't even competitors now.

                    And Haymon would be wise to hitch his massive roster to the wagon with the most money and currently aligned to a more future aimed platform.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Stinger1
                      Think your reading of the AB situation is wrong. The truth is does he really want/need AB? If I was Hearn, AB is someone I wouldn't overpay. We'll see who he has managed to sign in a couple of weeks.
                      Of course he wanted AB he offered him $6m+ deal over 3 fights.
                      The offer to Broner reaks of desperation. Hearn has played his hand terribly.

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