Comments Thread For: Hearn: With My War Chest - I'll Build Biggest Stable Ever in U.S.

[Noelanthony]

You make it sound rougher than it is. Half of those 30 shows are maintaining the status quo and business as usual in the UK.

He's got 16 dates for US dates plus the biggest budget in boxing, by a lot. Allegedly Showtime and HBO got ~$60M, ~$70M between them and Hearn gots $125M.

He's either gonna need to acquire Haymon guys or make ends meet with purse bid fights as others have mentioned til he acquires boxers who are entering free agency as he goes.

Boxing is filled with boxers who dislike their promoter and are looking for a guy looking to pay them more and get them bigger fights. So I think it's only a matter of time before Hearn gets the 6 to 8 names he needs to put on 16 US shows.

I totally agree with you. It wouldn’t be hard either. All it would take is a green light from Big Al Haymon suggesting he endorses or doesn’t mind putting a few of his fighters on Dazn platform just on a fight to fight basis. As of right now fighters already fighting on Showtime do not want to be perceived as a Judas. However having said that Eddie doesn’t exactly endear himself to his American competitors. Quotes such as i want to have the biggest and most vast stable or I don’t want to make the mistake like PBC is hardly going to charm the guy you actually need to massage his ankles in order to guarantee quality fights throughout the weight categories. Fans are fickle. Including myself. You better believe if Errol Spence is fighting on Dazn I am buying it. Likewise with most of ones favourite fighters

[Pigeons]

If Hearn's real plan is to have DAZN vs Showtime/CBS, while having his whole effort hinge on Haymon's fighters, he's going to fail miserably.

DAZN is in zero US homes currently; Showtime is already available in something like 25 million homes, and the Showtime app already has 2m+ people streaming the content.

8 years, $1b over the deal ($125m per year, 32 shows per year), with only the first two years guaranteed. smh

Al Haymon fanboy

[Randall Cunning]

He won't tell you and neither will the fighters. Unlike Broner there are people that understand the implications of an NDA.

Even says it in the article

Fighters like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., Deontay Wilder, Keith Thurman, Adrien Broner, Andrzej Fonfara, Adam Kownacki and several others have have either confirmed Hearn's approach or refused to provide details of their discussions.

[Stinger1]

Weird to me that so many people on here think this is some sort of Haymon v Hearn battle. If Haymon is the guy everyone says he is, his guys will sign with Hearn if it is the right deal. Al takes a % of the fighter's purses so if Eddie pays them more than what they're getting elsewhere and gets them to box more regularly then its more money for him and his fighters.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

He has to go after fighters without promotional contracts. Who else would he go after ?

Promoters can go after any fighter they want, doesn't matter whether that fighter is signed. He just can't sign the fighter unless he's willing to buy out the contract, which is negotiated into every boxing contract.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Hearn's activities are one part of a larger piece. The plan is to offer an alternative to cable. There won't just be boxing on there, take a look at what they're currently offering in other territories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAZN#Sports_rights



They're banking on viewing habits changing. As more people have netflix and/or Prime the case for cable gets weaker and more and more people will drop it: http://fortune.com/2018/03/01/cord-c...d-internet-tv/

DAZN plan to be offering sports fans an easy contract, literally no committment beyond a month, watch at home or on the move etc. May have been a hard sell years ago but now netflix is mainstream it may not be.

Average cable bill is over $100:
http://time.com/money/4590614/cable-...ing-streaming/

Let's say DAZN enters market at $10. You could cut the cable, get netflix and Dazn and save just under a thousand bucks a year.

your point is mute because prime already offers Showtime and HBO with out a cable subscription. HBO and Showtime both offer app use which includes live events, with out a cable subscription. Why would I purchase DAZN when I can use prime, get all the streaming I want, plus live events from HBO and Showtime? Hearn'll make some money, but the big dogs remain big for a reason, they already did/doing what Hearn is just starting to do.

[Scipio2009]

You make it sound rougher than it is. Half of those 30 shows are maintaining the status quo and business as usual in the UK.

He's got 16 dates for US dates plus the biggest budget in boxing, by a lot. Allegedly Showtime and HBO got ~$60M, ~$70M between them and Hearn gots $125M.

He's either gonna need to acquire Haymon guys or make ends meet with purse bid fights as others have mentioned til he acquires boxers who are entering free agency as he goes.

Boxing is filled with boxers who dislike their promoter and are looking for a guy looking to pay them more and get them bigger fights. So I think it's only a matter of time before Hearn gets the 6 to 8 names he needs to put on 16 US shows.

Hearn is still going to want some money for the UK shows that he puts on DAZN; even if he shorts his own UK shows, the money left for the remaining US shows likely doesn't blow away what Haymon and his fighters are looking at by being loyal to Showtime/CBS.

Boxers and promoters have their issues, but waiting on Haymon's fighters to sour on him would be a long wait from what we've seen.

Dirrell left and came back without issue, Vanes left and got put on the shelf by Don King for two years, and Jamel Herring is now trying to rebuild under Terence Crawford's camp at Top Rank.

There may be others who have left, but that count is low, and the ones that have left disgruntled have an even lower count.

Why he's not going after a fighter like Kovalev is beyond me.

[Scipio2009]

Weird to me that so many people on here think this is some sort of Haymon v Hearn battle. If Haymon is the guy everyone says he is, his guys will sign with Hearn if it is the right deal. Al takes a % of the fighter's purses so if Eddie pays them more than what they're getting elsewhere and gets them to box more regularly then its more money for him and his fighters.

It's not Eddie vs Haymon; it's Eddie vs Showtime/CBS.

For a moment, imagine if those old Haymon/ITV numbers were true, Haymon got $100m to deliver 20 shows a year, and he went after Eddie Hearn. "Hey, I understand that Joshua, Bellew, Brook, and Khan are basically set on Sky Box Office, but I'm ready to pay you a clear premium to bring Buatsi, Josh Kelly, the Yafai brothers, Whyte, and basically everyone else under your banner over to ITV; if any of the ITV fighters become Box Office caliber, you can take them onto your Sky Box Office deal, and we'd split the proceeds".

The outright dollar amount would draw note, but Hearn is sharp enough to take that and weigh it against the entire package that Sky Sports offers his boxers.

What Eddie is trying to do isn't all that different

[Scipio2009]

Weird to me that so many people on here think this is some sort of Haymon v Hearn battle. If Haymon is the guy everyone says he is, his guys will sign with Hearn if it is the right deal. Al takes a % of the fighter's purses so if Eddie pays them more than what they're getting elsewhere and gets them to box more regularly then its more money for him and his fighters.

It's not Eddie vs Haymon; it's Eddie vs Showtime/CBS.

For a moment, imagine if those old Haymon/ITV numbers were true, Haymon got $100m to deliver 20 shows a year, and he went after Eddie Hearn. "Hey, I understand that Joshua, Bellew, Brook, and Khan are basically set on Sky Box Office, but I'm ready to pay you a clear premium to bring Buatsi, Josh Kelly, the Yafai brothers, Whyte, and basically everyone else under your banner over to ITV; if any of the ITV fighters become Box Office caliber, you can take them onto your Sky Box Office deal, and we'd split the proceeds".

The outright dollar amount would draw note, but Hearn is sharp enough to take that and weigh it against the entire package that Sky Sports offers his boxers.

What Eddie is trying to do isn't all that different

[Jimmy gold]

Everything you wrote is extraneous!! We are ready now! It dont matter how longit took.. we want that smoke right now!!! Some steaks take longer to cook? So what? They can still taste just as good. Wilder has been in the oven cooking longer.. so what? You're point is Superman J is filet mignon.. rare. and doomsday wilder is like a tbone.. well done. Tbone has better seasoning.. an which one is tougher? I'm just saying..

AJ can decide on who he fights next he’s the one with the a side advantages I mean wilder could of at least tried to grab another belt but he let a j do it ajs the one that put in hard work wilder to seems to want a free ride so it’s alright if AJ is like forget wilder he hasn’t done much imo