New concept: Y4Y (similar to P4P)

[Eddy Current]

Here's what I mean.

As years go by, progress is made in all areas. For example, the stuff Einstein so brilliantly discovered about the photoelectric effect and relativity can be understood by today's mediocre physicists.

And then everyone here knows why P4P was invented. Obviously Loma can't beat Joshua, but in terms of skills and how they do against the best at their weight?


Now here's my idea. I think anyone with a brain knows that even today's Warriors would humiliate Michael Jordan's Bulls. The knowledge of yesterday is built upon.

Anyone with some sense would also agree that prime Tyson would beat prime Ali, prime Ali would beat prime Jack Johnson, and prime Joshua/Wilder would knock out prime Tyson. Don't let "generational pride" get in the way of logic. There is no shame, only a lack of ignorance, in accepting that the current generation isn't the best there has been yet. The current Minnesota Vikings would beat any of those 49ers/Cowboys teams that won super bowls.

Isn't that what life is all about? Improving oneself, improving as a society as time goes on? So let's get started with Y4Y rankings!!!!

[ShoulderRoll]

The current Minnesota Vikings would beat any of those 49ers/Cowboys teams that won super bowls.

There are a lot of things to disagree with in your post so I'll just address this one.

They didn't have a salary cap in the NFL back then so those teams were stacked. They would both crap all over today's Vikings.

[Madison Boxing]

tysons ATG standing is heavily overrated but id be surprised if he didnt spark out wilder and joshua

[Eddy Current]

There are a lot of things to disagree with in your post so I'll just address this one.

They didn't have a salary cap in the NFL back then so those teams were stacked. They would both crap all over today's Vikings.

Lol, today's Vikings would make the 80s and 90s teams looks ******. Just compare the size, speed, strength, etc. And that's just the physical aspect of it. The coaching and organization today is also superior.

And it's no shame to yesteryear's teams by any means. That's the normal, and hopeful coarse of progress is to improve as time goes on.

[Eddy Current]

Exhibit A:

[chaosisme]

So are you gonna post your Y4Y list so we hav some kinda clue as to what the hell you're even talking about?

[Eff Pandas]

I came up with a "Most Unbeatable List" once upon a time. Its similar to P4P except it was based upon facts. You have to have won your last x fights (4 or 5 iirc) &/or not lost in 2 years, you had to have beaten guys who had 50pts or better on boxrec, how many times you've been dropped & you couldn't have lost more than x (40% or 45% iirc) rounds vs any specific opponent during the specified period. And based upon where you ranked in those particular stats you'd get your Most Unbeatable Fighter Rankings.

Was a hassle to maintain doe cuz sometimes the scorecards for fights aren't readily available. It usually produced a guy who I deemed more #1 P4P then the standard #1 P4P guy doe.

[Eddy Current]

So are you gonna post your Y4Y list so we hav some kinda clue as to what the hell you're even talking about?

That would be a tough list to come up with. What I really mean is that asking who would win between Deontay Wilder and Loma is not the same as asking who is the better boxer between Deontay Wilder and Loma, just as asking who would win between Mike Tyson and Jack Johnson is not the same as asking who is the better boxer between Mike Tyson and Jack Johnson.

[_original_]

Tyson, who knows, but do Wilder and/or Joshua really stand a chance against Lennox Lewis? I get what you're saying but I think the gap in years isn't so wide in some of those cases for there to have been so many advancements and changes. This argument is largely built on speculation as there is little evidence to back it up. "Modern athletes are bigger, faster, stronger, ect.....," yet you see boxers from yesteryear going 15 or more rounds while guys like Canelo and AJ (two physical specimens) can't make it through a 12 round bout without gassing.

Soft ass Warriors wouldn't beat The Bulls as well with 90's rules.

[OnlyBeingHonest]

Tyson, who knows, but do Wilder and/or Joshua really stand a chance against Lennox Lewis? I get what you're saying but I think the gap in years isn't so wide in some of those cases for there to have been so many advancements and changes. This argument is largely built on speculation as there is little evidence to back it up. "Modern athletes are bigger, faster, stronger, ect.....," yet you see boxers from yesteryear going 15 or more rounds while guys like Canelo and AJ (two physical specimens) can't make it through a 12 round bout without gassing.

Soft ass Warriors wouldn't beat The Bulls as well with 90's rules.

I hate the weak Warriors, but let's be real, even with the rules of the 90s they'd still beat the Bulls with Jordan. They're just too good behind the arc. Rough housing isn't effective behind the three point line. That only works well under the rim to make guys hesitant to come in the paint.