If Canelo fights Jacobs next...

[Diego Rodriguez]

Well here's how things go, good or bad, in most talks.

When it works:

Person A: 65/35

Person B: 50/50

Person A: 60/40

Person B: 45/55

Person A: 58/42

Person B: 42/58 agreed

*both shake the others hand*

When it doesn't work:

Person A: 65/35

Person B: 50/50

Person A: 65/35

Person B: 50/50

Person A: 65/35

Person B: 50/50

*both look at the other guy like he's crazy*

When you got a guy saying one thing & sticking with it you gotta bend more or walk away. There is no obligation for both sides to agree on the value of each guy. And if you are the B side you are more likely to have to accept the value you can get vs demand the value you want, like it sounds like Tommy & GGG were doing. This is all basic day 1 type things in Fight Negotiations 101

Or the third scenario:

Person A: 65/35

Person B: 50/50

Person A: I'm done, I'm walking away. He doesn't want to fight.

Person B: Umm, I'm still willing to talk (negotiate).

But I have a feeling that Person B in this scenario even if they were willing to start going down from 50% that Person A would not be willing to go down beyond their original offer.

Person A does not seem to realize that the terms agreed to in May of 65/35 have changed. Their fighter who F'd up of the agreement and now has more to gain in making the fight should probably be a bit more flexible. I think reasonable people would agree when the facts are laid out. But that is their prerogative.

[animelive]

It will be Spike O'Sullivan Next!


Clearly they was building towards that when he fought on ESPN Before Ryan Garcia

they really want to sell that ppv don't they?

[satiev1]

Zero. He would be doing what he's supposed to do. Fight the best in the division.

[otrocubiche]

we always had ppv parties on may and september and some other times when there were good fights, lots of food and drinks, a few fans with our families, may went by we didn't do shyt, looks like september will go by and if we don't get vanelo/ggg it will be probably another night of partying, booze and food, but I am not paying for any other fight on that date, matter of fact I am not paying for any canelo or ggg ppv unless they fight each other

[Zaryu]

The way to redeem himself was to submit himself to year round random testing, which I think he did, and throw GGG a bone during negotiations for his epic fook up that ruined the May fight. I'm not saying GGG deserves 50/50, but they should give him more than 35%.

If Canelo fights Jacobs next it shows he's confident in his ability to mix it up with any of the top dogs at 160, but I personally think he should go for Saunders in order to make the GGG fight even bigger. Either way, that's not the way to redeem himself, I think these are two different things that don't correlate in the redeeming spectrum IMO.

[KO MX]

He'll never fight Jacobs, like he never fought Trout,Lara,Lil G or the boogeyman in turn on the past

[Boris Johnson!]

in all possible alternate realities there is not one in which Clen fights Jacobs, there are dozens in which he finds an excuse to rematch Josesito Lopez

[WesternChamp]

not much... ggg ruin jacobs already. you dont get props for beating the guy that got beaten by the guy that you got beaten by also.

[Street15]

To be honest, I think it would be wise for Canelo to stay away from Jacobs and Charlo. Tall, rangy, HUGE, smart, powerful, agile, long, athletic boxers will have Canelo looking bad.

[Eff Pandas]

Or the third scenario:

Person A: 65/35

Person B: 50/50

Person A: I'm done, I'm walking away. He doesn't want to fight.

Person B: Umm, I'm still willing to talk (negotiate).

But I have a feeling that Person B in this scenario even if they were willing to start going down from 50% that Person A would not be willing to go down beyond their original offer.

Person A does not seem to realize that the terms agreed to in May of 65/35 have changed. Their fighter who F'd up of the agreement and now has more to gain in making the fight should probably be a bit more flexible. I think reasonable people would agree when the facts are laid out. But that is their prerogative.

I doubt they only had time to give one take on what they wanted or to change gears if needed.

But yea I agree one would think Canelo would need to bend more because of his situation which I don't think is going anywhere despite him being "cleared" by most pundits & media, but I think they are once again using their evade til GGG gets old here tactic they were using previously for a year or 18mos or w/e.

The older GGG gets the better Canelo will get so this fight being pushed back another year is only helping Canelo & hurting GGG plus I tend to believe with the murderers row GGG gots in front of him part of their tactic was staying firm on their offer cuz plan B sucks balls for GGG. Its likely if GGG takes plan B GBP won't even have to worry about the stretch the fight out longer so GGG gets older tactic cuz GGG will get beat.