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  • #11
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    They said anybody from 154-168 & Ward said ok and they said 164 for you. For Chavez Jr & Froch its 168.
    Read my response to Curt.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
      when ward made the offer for 168 golovkins fans said "ward cant even make 168 anymore anyway so its just a ploy"....

      why didnt lil g ask for 164 for chavez or froch?

      how many times has golovkins team mentioned fighting at 168? didnt abel say that would be his best weight?

      why is he trying to drain an old, boring, featherfisted, irrelevant guy?
      Like Canelo did, yeah?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Vegemil View Post
        So you think fighting a great fighter 8 pounds heavier than you is fair?
        it is when your own trainer says 168 would be your best weight and that you can beat everyone at 175 currently too....

        the problem for golovkin is that he wouldnt be favored and he dont like fights like that

        he prefers C level MWs and welters and jr middles....hes talked a big game about 168 but hasnt even done it once

        after they took the brook fight loeffler said "we would have taken degale if he was offered to us but he wasnt"....but tom, why didnt you ask hearn about degale once you knew eubank wasnt gonna sign?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Randall Cunning View Post
          Like Canelo did, yeah?
          like canelo did what?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Vegemil View Post
            So you think fighting a great fighter 8 pounds heavier than you is fair?
            So why didn't ggg take the catch weight with canelo? Why make him move all the way up to 160?

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            • #16
              it was a fair offer.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Vegemil View Post
                Read my response to Curt.
                Your response makes no sense. They didn't say only Chavez & Froch. They said ANYBODY, which included Ward until Ward called their bluff.











                Pssttt. 154-168 was always just an offer only for Froch or Chavez Jr. They were chasing a paycheck



















                Ironically enough, the main event of the March 30th card is Gennady Golovkin vs. Nobuhiro Ishida for Golovkin's WBA middleweight title. A fight between Rodriguez and Golovkin had been discussed over the past few months, but ultimately it was turned down by Rodriguez who explained that the terms of the fight weren’t adequate enough to take on a whim. However, he did say that he could see a potential fight down the road.

                “I would love to [fight Gennady], his team and promotional company send me a contract to fight at 164lbs and next day they say I have to be 10lbs off. They go on HBO and say they’re big enough to fight anybody from 154 to 168, after I win this tournament I’m open if you want to fight me. My weight is 168lbs, come and get it.”

                Rodriguez explained further that not only was he dissatisfied with the terms of the fight, but he also felt frustrated about the situation in its entirety and even took a stab at what a catch weight could suggest about the confidence in Golovkin and his team.

                “Don’t send me a contract saying I have to be 10lbs off or come down to a catch weight, I’m a super middleweight and you said you’d fight anyone from 154 to 168 but then you’re fighting guys at light middleweights. If you’re really as good as you say and your team really believes you’re that good then move up and fight me at 168 and stop sending me contracts that aren’t even worth looking at.”
                http://thaboxingvoice.com/edwin-rodriguez-hopes-a-tournament-victory-lands-a-big-fight-with-kessler-ward-or-froch/

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by lizard_man View Post
                  So why didn't ggg take the catch weight with canelo? Why make him move all the way up to 160?
                  Cuz Canelo is not a small dude. He rehydrates to 170 iirc so making 160 was natural to him.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    Your response makes no sense. They didn't say only Chavez & Froch. They said ANYBODY, which included Ward until Ward called their bluff.











                    Pssttt. 154-168 was always just an offer only for Froch or Chavez Jr. They were chasing a paycheck





















                    http://thaboxingvoice.com/edwin-rodr...ward-or-froch/
                    lot of tough talk about 168 and 168 fighters....yet hes fighting jr middles and welters.....not a one 168 fight yet....but hes been chirping about it for years now

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                    • #20
                      The offer was disingenuous. Losing 4 pounds is harder than gaining 4 pounds. The GGG already signed a contract to fight Chavez Jr at 168

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