Inoue will not win the bantam tournament....

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  • The Viper
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    #51
    Originally posted by larryxxx..
    What is your agenda against him? I'll take that bet
    This. Cleary you don't lie him.....so really what's the deal??????
    Give reasons why you think he does not win it?????

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      #52
      Originally posted by The Mack.
      i dont care what the ring have him, he sure as **** wasnt the 2nd best fighter in the division
      Even TBR had him as a top five. Objectively, no one should be so ignorant that they don't think he was rightfully one of the top fighters in the division. That's just objective reality no matter which outlet is doing the ranking though and how you personally rank him is your own business and not something I'll worry about, certainly. But good luck with your points. Take care.

      Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
      Why do people say severe size disadvantage like that matters when fighting bums. Inoue is well built not a skinny twig like Mcdonnell who weight drained. Ring #2? Geale was Ring #2 at one point when GGG fought him and people gave him **** because he was a bum. Cotto moved on to fight this Geale and smashed same as Golvkin a former 147 destroying a 160 weight drained corpse.
      I don't speak for "people" and I'm not one of the "people" who said that about Geale, because that would be a ridiculous assessment. If you think McDonnell was a bum, you're simply ignorant, which isn't my problem. If someone thought Geale was a bum, same thing.

      It's more of a problem for the sport as a whole that fans are so poor at assessing talent and achievement that they rank virtually everyone as a HOFer or a bum. Which would be the kind of simplistic, unreasonable thinking you would need to arrive at these conclusions about fighters like Geale and McDonnell. And take care to you too. I'm sure you're looking after some points too of some kind.

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      • Vegemil
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        #53
        Originally posted by The Mack.
        Them guys aren't gonna plod forward and wait to get hit. I will bet half my points with a reliable poster that he won't win it.
        I'll take your bet on as well.

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        • Madison Boxing
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          #54
          Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove
          Even TBR had him as a top five. Objectively, no one should be so ignorant that they don't think he was rightfully one of the top fighters in the division. That's just objective reality no matter which outlet is doing the ranking though and how you personally rank him is your own business and not something I'll worry about, certainly. But good luck with your points. Take care.



          I don't speak for "people" and I'm not one of the "people" who said that about Geale, because that would be a ridiculous assessment. If you think McDonnell was a bum, you're simply ignorant, which isn't my problem. If someone thought Geale was a bum, same thing.

          It's more of a problem for the sport as a whole that fans are so poor at assessing talent and achievement that they rank virtually everyone as a HOFer or a bum. Which would be the kind of simplistic, unreasonable thinking you would need to arrive at these conclusions about fighters like Geale and McDonnell. And take care to you too. I'm sure you're looking after some points too of some kind.
          im sorry but hes not a 'top' fighter. people slate ggg's resume but im sure theres lots of opponents people consider poor who were rated top 5 one way or another. all im saying is hes got to prove hes elite by beating an elite fighter. beating mcdonell does not prove that to me, whatever fashion it was in.

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Viper
            This. Cleary you don't lie him.....so really what's the deal??????
            Give reasons why you think he does not win it?????
            i have nothing against him. i just think when he comes up against a good mover hes gonna struggle, often these power punchers do.

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            • Vinnykin
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              #56
              Lets be honest guys, none of these champs have fought each other yet.... we know Inoue, Rodriguez, Tete are elite fighters, I think Burnett is talented but he lacks the power of the other guys. All these guys will be seriously tested for the first time in their careers.

              I honestly don't know who will win, and that is what makes this exciting. This could be the greatest thing boxing has ever seen!

              Tete/Inoue is the dream final for me, both have devastating right hands, I think it's a case of who can land the big punch first.

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              • Randall Cunning
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                #57
                Originally posted by Vinnykin
                Lets be honest guys, none of these champs have fought each other yet.... we know Inoue, Rodriguez, Tete are elite fighters, I think Burnett is talented but he lacks the power of the other guys. All these guys will be seriously tested for the first time in their careers.

                I honestly don't know who will win, and that is what makes this exciting. This could be the greatest thing boxing has ever seen!

                Tete/Inoue is the dream final for me, both have devastating right hands, I think it's a case of who can land the big punch first.
                I think Tete's the most overrated of them, feeling he'll crumble under pressure the first sign. Man, he hasn't lost in a while but hes fought some **** since then.

                If I had to pick one, I'd say Inoue will win it, Rodriguez and Burnett thereabouts.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #58
                  I'm not sure he'll win it either, but he could!

                  Heck of a line-up of elite fighters!

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                  • Vinnykin
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                    I think Tete's the most overrated of them, feeling he'll crumble under pressure the first sign. Man, he hasn't lost in a while but hes fought some **** since then.

                    If I had to pick one, I'd say Inoue will win it, Rodriguez and Burnett thereabouts.
                    That's what I mean, we're going off eye-test here with a lot of guys, we don't know how they will cope with guys their own level, when it gets tough, when they take a shot etc etc

                    I actually think Tete and Inoue are the best, Burnett and Rodriguez will run them close though, and like I said, if Tete or Inoue detonate first it's over, both devastating punchers, Tete has the reach and mobility though....

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