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  • sotgoda
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    #31
    Originally posted by DuckAdonis
    Joshua needs to fight Wilder agressively like he did klitschko, go to war, put pressure on him... dont wait out and box like he did vs parker, giving wilder more time to land his right hand.

    Aj needs to counter early...go on the inside 3-4th round, fire the combinations, and go to war and try to finish wilder...i dont think wilder can fight that well being pressured, going backwards. Wilder is happy to wait the entire fight to land his 1 big shot...AJ needs to avoid that by putting wilder in a panic mode, going back with his hands down, go after him, let that uppercut go on the inside, straight right etc. Try to bully him
    Bro, I think this strategy is what AJ will use. However, I think he gets knocked out faster. When AJ throws his combinations, he is left open because both hands are in motion and AJ does not move his head. Wilder moves his head a lot better than AJ and is extremely fast for a guy his size in the heavyweight division.

    As such, AJ will be trying the Duhaupas method without the Duhaupas chin. That will lead to an easier KO for Wilder. Watch that fight again - Wilder was happy to exchange and did not mind taking a punch to give back one, two or more.

    Also, against Wlad, AJ struggled with the 1-2 for all but 2 rounds (5 and 11) at the start of each round. He was jabbing and trying to hit Wlad with his right. It was only the rounds where he bumrushed Wlad that he knocked him down. Wilder is one of the best backfoot fighters - AJ is the one who looks clueless on his backfoot. How is he going to get within Wilder's reach without eating punches?

    Lastly, Wilder NEVER panics in any of his fights. Never - even when against Ortiz taking punishment for 40+ seconds, he kept his calm, tried to fight his way, stayed on his feet and eventually got out of it.
    Last edited by sotgoda; 05-24-2018, 04:02 PM.

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    • FLY TY
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      #32
      Originally posted by Laligalaliga
      Smiles, tell me, you seems to know better.
      I know out of the 2, only 1 has been offered what he's asked for, and he can't seem to find his pen.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Mack.
        the fight will disappoint people. joshuas cruise to a wide UD fighting safety first, just like he did against parker. he wont be trading with wilder cause despite his limitations, he packs a punch.

        This is exactly how I see Joshua approaching this fight and if all goes to plan it will be boring. I'm not prepared to say Joshua wins for sure because Wilder is dangerous from start to finish so anything could happen.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #34
          Originally posted by FLY TY
          I know out of the 2, only 1 has been offered what he's asked for, and he can't seem to find his pen.
          OK... Now I get the info. I guess when one said I will fight anywhere, it's not about the money, you were on transit to india then.

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          • The plunger man
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            #35
            Originally posted by uppercut510
            If he avoids the right hand the whole fight he can outbox him, will be hard because they are both ortho and aj doesnt move his upperbody well for the whole fight. Ortiz as a outhpaw did a good job of staying on wilder outside food which made it easy for him to counter the jab and right hand so for a while it was hard for wilder to land it. As an orth it will be harder for aj to do that, he will outbox wilder early but will he be able to avoid that right hand is the question. He didnt ko takkam or parker so i doubt he just kos wilder unless it goes into deep waters as it did with kilts. Thing is it took klits knocking him down and aj getting his second wind. Klits was and older version of himself so he got away with it, wilder is very athletic and in his prime so if he lands like that it can be over. But as i said if aj can avoid the right he can outbox wilder to a decision!
            now you are on drugs lol....the same old klitchcko knocked wilder spark out twon times in sparring and if you think joshuas only option is outboxing him yiur going to be in for a rude awakening.....once joshua catches wilder clean with his right hand wilder will get put to sleep...joshuas power is way above ortiz and ortiz had him out on his feet.
            Im willing to wager some serious dough with you that when joshua wins its inside the distance...what do yiu say ?

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              #36
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                #37
                Originally posted by sotgoda
                Bro, I think this strategy is what AJ will use. However, I think he gets knocked out faster. When AJ throws his combinations, he is left open because both hands are in motion and AJ does not move his head. Wilder moves his head a lot better than AJ and is extremely fast for a guy his size in the heavyweight division.

                As such, AJ will be trying the Duhaupas method without the Duhaupas chin. That will lead to an easier KO for Wilder. Watch that fight again - Wilder was happy to exchange and did not mind taking a punch to give back one, two or more.

                Also, against Wlad, AJ struggled with the 1-2 for all but 2 rounds (5 and 11) at the start of each round. He was jabbing and trying to hit Wlad with his right. It was only the rounds where he bumrushed Wlad that he knocked him down. Wilder is one of the best backfoot fighters - AJ is the one who looks clueless on his backfoot. How is he going to get within Wilder's reach without eating punches?

                Lastly, Wilder NEVER panics in any of his fights. Never - even when against Ortiz taking punishment for 40+ seconds, he kept his calm, tried to fight his way, stayed on his feet and eventually got out of it.
                Smiles... What I love about boxing is pre fight analysis is always different from post fight analysis... It's so amazing.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sotgoda
                  Bro, I think this strategy is what AJ will use. However, I think he gets knocked out faster. When AJ throws his combinations, he is left open because both hands are in motion and AJ does not move his head. Wilder moves his head a lot better than AJ and is extremely fast for a guy his size in the heavyweight division.

                  As such, AJ will be trying the Duhaupas method without the Duhaupas chin. That will lead to an easier KO for Wilder. Watch that fight again - Wilder was happy to exchange and did not mind taking a punch to give back one, two or more.

                  Also, against Wlad, AJ struggled with the 1-2 for all but 2 rounds (5 and 11) at the start of each round. He was jabbing and trying to hit Wlad with his right. It was only the rounds where he bumrushed Wlad that he knocked him down. Wilder is one of the best backfoot fighters - AJ is the one who looks clueless on his backfoot. How is he going to get within Wilder's reach without eating punches?

                  Lastly, Wilder NEVER panics in any of his fights. Never - even when against Ortiz taking punishment for 40+ seconds, he kept his calm, tried to fight his way, stayed on his feet and eventually got out of it.
                  But Duhaupas isnt remotely near as skilled or as big a puncher as AJ is...you guys tend to forget that. Wilder wont be able to fight AJ like he fought Duhaupas...if AJ hits him like that its lights out for Wilder as well...this fight is really who can hurt the other one first...anything can happen. But in an equal matchup with both being big punchers im going with the technically more skilled guy. Sure Joshua was rocked by Whyte and dropped by Klitschko. But Wilder has been hurt bad by Ortiz, stunned by Molina and dropped by Sconiers as well. In fact i think if that would have been a younger Ortiz then Wilder wouldnt have seen the 8th round. It will take a good young combination/counter puncher to finish wilder off, Joshua is that. Both are far from invincible, i just see more flaws in wilder. But it would be foolish to count wilder out ofc.
                  Last edited by DuckAdonis; 05-24-2018, 04:44 PM.

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                  • sotgoda
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    Smiles... What I love about boxing is pre fight analysis is always different from post fight analysis... It's so amazing.
                    Mine won't be different. I will be here to smile - will you too, bro? I don't see anyway AJ wins unless Wilder is very sick. AJ's biggest advantage is technique - everything else goes to Wilder. My analysis will be the same pre- and post. Just get your boy to sign the fight and we will get to see it.

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                    • sotgoda
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DuckAdonis
                      But Duhaupas isnt remotely near as skilled or as big a puncher as AJ is...you guys tend to forget that. Wilder wont be able to fight AJ like he fought Duhaupas...if AJ hits him like that its lights out for Wilder as well...this fight is really who can hurt the other one first...anything can happen. But in an equal matchup with both being big punchers im going with the technically more skilled guy. Sure Joshua was rocked by Whyte and dropped by Klitschko. But Wilder has been hurt bad by Ortiz, stunned by Molina and dropped by Sconiers as well. In fact i think if that would have been a younger Ortiz then Wilder wouldnt have seen the 8th round. Both are far from invincible, i just see more flaws in wilder. But it would be foolish to count wilder out ofc.
                      It is not an equal matchup in terms of power. AJ's power is not remotely close to Wilder's in my opinion. Can AJ hurt Wilder with a punch? Yes, but the more likely scenario is stun Wilder and then go in for the finish through combinations. AJ does not have one-punch knockout power. He hurts people through combinations. I think you and I agree on this. So, if he is able to buzz or stun Wilder, and the latter does not recover well enough, then AJ could possibly win.

                      On the Molina and Sconiers fight, Wilder was rocked in the former for a few seconds, dropped by the latter due to a punch he did not see. Wilder was fine in both fights and recovered very quickly. It is like the Loma-Linares. Linares dropped Loma but the latter was not hurt. Also, I rate Ortiz's power over AJ. Ortiz had 40+ seconds to hit Wilder and he hit him with over 23 shots but could not get him down. Maybe a younger Ortiz could have recovered faster in the 8th round to stop Wilder - we will never know. Remember AJ blew his wad against Wlad in the 5th round and nearly paid for it in the 6th round. Not sure age is the issue but stamina. Also, Wilder was sick in the Ortiz fight which definitely affected him.

                      On the flaws, I respectfully disagree on who has more. Wilder is the less technical by far. No one disputes that. Even a delusional Wilder fan should be honest about that. If that is what you mean by flaws, then I agree.

                      But in terms of weapons, Wilder has the bigger weapons - more power, greater speed, more mobile, more explosive, longer, taller, better head movement, better backfoot fighter, better finisher, better stamina, etc. AJ has the better technique - that's it. These weapons are why I am beyond confident that Wilder wrecks AJ.

                      On the previous paragraph, I am open to hearing your views on the weapons as I discussed and determining where we align or otherwise.

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