Comments Thread For: Whyte Questions The Courage of Pulev, Pressures Him To Sign

[5000boxing]

The only reason for that is because the WBC keep ****ing him around. If he’d beat Ortiz, they’d probably still make him fight more eliminators and give Breazele or Stiverne another shot.. after beating Helenius and Browne he should’ve been next in line..

The IBF dont **** around with their mandatories. If you’re the mandatory, you’re the mandatory and you get that shot. So I’m not surprised that Whyte’s gone down the IBF route..

Helenius an browne? Guarantees a shot at the champ? I admit Id rather see wilder vs whyte than wilder Breazeale but whyte needs to do something... an he doesn't look ready.. beating ortiz, or miller would definitely give him the juice. An Americans would definitely approve an know who he is.. all we know is he got destroyed by AJ in 7 rounds. Seven!!!! Wtf man.. if he face tougher accepted competition.. our mouths would be watering for that fight.. but he wants to challenge the king for his big payday so he can retire a cripple. Lol. Smh

[Tony Mangtana]

Helenius an browne? Guarantees a shot at the champ? I admit Id rather see wilder vs whyte than wilder Breazeale but whyte needs to do something... an he doesn't look ready.. beating ortiz, or miller would definitely give him the juice. An Americans would definitely approve an know who he is.. all we know is he got destroyed by AJ in 7 rounds. Seven!!!! Wtf man.. if he face tougher accepted competition.. our mouths would be watering for that fight.. but he wants to challenge the king for his big payday so he can retire a cripple. Lol. Smh

Well I’d say he’s more Deserving of a shot over Breazele, yes.. As he’s only beaten Molina and some unknown polish can after his last title shot vs Joshua.. Yet they’re moving more towards Breazele being the mandatory.. And surely Ortiz has to work his way back up after his last title shot against Wilder.. (as much as I rate him and the fact he’s dangerous and technically sound..)

Also, is it really fair to determine whether or not a fighter should get a title shot based on his familiarity with a US fanbase? Whyte won and retained the WBC Silver title and beat well ranked opponents within the WBC, which obviously doesn’t stand for anything as far as the WBC are portraying, but it should do..

The IBF have ordered the mandatory against Pulev as a final eliminator as far as I’m aware. And if this is a final eliminator, then it will be exactly what it says on the tin, because it’s the IBF and when they say you’re the mandatory, they won’t lie.. This is why anyone can see why Whyte would want to take this route rather than take a chance going down the long road with the WBC..

To be fair I wouldn’t mind seeing him fight Ortiz or Miller. It makes no difference to me. I just felt like he’s played the game with the WBC and he’s not really getting anything back from them..

[5000boxing]

If they should ever meet, you got a bet if you want it. It isn't that I think Pulev is all that, I just think that Ortiz, off PEDs and 39 years old, would get beaten down by Pulev's jab and overall physicality.

That said, would you at least agree that Whyte has never beaten anyone as good as Pulev or Ortiz.

Oh hell yea..I will take that bet! I got ortiz, you got pulev just to be clear. Whyte will get destroyed by ortiz.. probably pulev too.. so yess, I agree.. if he overcomes either.. it would be his best win to date.

[5000boxing]

Well I’d say he’s more Deserving of a shot over Breazele, yes.. As he’s only beaten Molina and some unknown polish can after his last title shot vs Joshua.. Yet they’re moving more towards Breazele being the mandatory.. And surely Ortiz has to work his way back up after his last title shot against Wilder.. (as much as I rate him and the fact he’s dangerous and technically sound..)

Also, is it really fair to determine whether or not a fighter should get a title shot based on his familiarity with a US fanbase? Whyte won and retained the WBC Silver title and beat well ranked opponents within the WBC, which obviously doesn’t stand for anything as far as the WBC are portraying, but it should do..

The IBF have ordered the mandatory against Pulev as a final eliminator as far as I’m aware. And if this is a final eliminator, then it will be exactly what it says on the tin, because it’s the IBF and when they say you’re the mandatory, they won’t lie.. This is why anyone can see why Whyte would want to take this route rather than take a chance going down the long road with the WBC..

To be fair I wouldn’t mind seeing him fight Ortiz or Miller. It makes no difference to me. I just felt like he’s played the game with the WBC and he’s not really getting anything back from them..

I don't have a disagreement with anything you said.. to me.. it seems like since both wilder and Breazeale are both managed by haymon.. an they have legitimate underground beef with each other.. seems they (wbc) might have agreed to make Breazeale a mando so wilder wont be forced into purse bids after this voluntary against Breazeale.. Stiverne was the mando.. after him was ortiz.. wilder zfaced them both back to back.. which is why this is pulled.. whyte should have been tried to fight stiverne or ortiz to get in the limelight quicker.. but instead he fought for the silver.. Stiverne ducked ortiz.. we even had to pay stiverne step aside money so wilder can face ortiz first... but ortiz pissed hot.. so the mando in stiverne was in forced.. after that fight.. hearn told king wilder in order to fight king AJ he needed to face peasant dillian whyte first.. where was the wbc silver? An mando position? Wilder said he would fight the peasant for a guaranteed shot at AJ.. now the roles are reversed and he doesnt want to fight ortiz.. not to mention whyte doesnt have a belt.. wilder does and did when he challenged the king of the U.K.. does that seem right to you?

[Laligalaliga]

"The HW division is full of cowards".. Yeah just like you.

Fight Ortiz clown.. dont duck

Rather, the HW division is full of insensible person like you that refused to reason.
Ortiz on the back of a title loss should immediately fight for a final eliminator for the same title again.
Hope your brain is in check.
Let's call a spade a spade.

[Laligalaliga]

Ortiz would stop pulev in 3rds or less.. u smoking something good.. let me hit that shyte! Lol

Lolx.... you always make Ortiz feel like a champ bcoz he is wilders best win.
We cannot be carried away by all that antics. Ortiz is as good as every other HW, the difference being just that he is a southpaw.
The ***** has never been a champion, am wondering how this guy is rating so high because he was beating by his man.
The fact remains that your man wilder has never fought a champion, it hurt but it's the truth.

[Laligalaliga]

Yea.. its fun arguing with him.. we got some bets popping already.. but u also forgot that AJ has Povetkin to worry about who can KO him.. and there goes that 50 million.. Wilder is my guy.. but no one was harder on him than me when he didn't want to fight ortiz.. I call a spade a spade.. I was pissed thinking that Joshua was taking all the glory by fighting ortiz first.. back when hearn signed him to a fight by fight bases.. but, that was to keep ortiz away from AJ.. but when wilder stepped up.. I supported him win, lose or draw.. bc ortiz was the man to beat.. i was pissed when ortiz had those blood pressure crap.. an wilder had to fave Stiverne.. but wilder blessed ortiz withba second chance.. I gained even more respect.. wilder won.. an made me some bread. An regained my full respect and support.

WIders only good fight in 40 that couldn't make ppv? Am ashamed of you to be honest.

[Laligalaliga]

Helenius an browne? Guarantees a shot at the champ? I admit Id rather see wilder vs whyte than wilder Breazeale but whyte needs to do something... an he doesn't look ready.. beating ortiz, or miller would definitely give him the juice. An Americans would definitely approve an know who he is.. all we know is he got destroyed by AJ in 7 rounds. Seven!!!! Wtf man.. if he face tougher accepted competition.. our mouths would be watering for that fight.. but he wants to challenge the king for his big payday so he can retire a cripple. Lol. Smh

Lolx.... How funny you are about payday.
Wilder himself needs a pay day. In 40, no fighter has ever had a payday fighting wilder. We know where the pay day fight reside.

[Laligalaliga]

Well I’d say he’s more Deserving of a shot over Breazele, yes.. As he’s only beaten Molina and some unknown polish can after his last title shot vs Joshua.. Yet they’re moving more towards Breazele being the mandatory.. And surely Ortiz has to work his way back up after his last title shot against Wilder.. (as much as I rate him and the fact he’s dangerous and technically sound..)

Also, is it really fair to determine whether or not a fighter should get a title shot based on his familiarity with a US fanbase? Whyte won and retained the WBC Silver title and beat well ranked opponents within the WBC, which obviously doesn’t stand for anything as far as the WBC are portraying, but it should do..

The IBF have ordered the mandatory against Pulev as a final eliminator as far as I’m aware. And if this is a final eliminator, then it will be exactly what it says on the tin, because it’s the IBF and when they say you’re the mandatory, they won’t lie.. This is why anyone can see why Whyte would want to take this route rather than take a chance going down the long road with the WBC..

To be fair I wouldn’t mind seeing him fight Ortiz or Miller. It makes no difference hito me. I just felt like he’s played the game with the WBC and he’s not really getting anything back from them..

5000boxing will still not understand this, he is a pure wilder fan boy on this site.

[5000boxing]

Lolx.... you always make Ortiz feel like a champ bcoz he is wilders best win.
We cannot be carried away by all that antics. Ortiz is as good as every other HW, the difference being just that he is a southpaw.
The ***** has never been a champion, am wondering how this guy is rating so high because he was beating by his man.
The fact remains that your man wilder has never fought a champion, it hurt but it's the truth.

Omg. Im arguing with a casual... bermaine stiverne was the champion when wilder beat him..Tyson fury beat klitschko before joshua so that fight against klitschko wasnt truly a championship fight either and doesnt count as a bout against a champion if wilders fight against stiverne wasnt by your logic.. sooo.. by default.. charles martin an parker wasn't either since those belts where giving to them by fighting a one legged glasko and going the distance with fury little brother.. man.. you casuals are hilarious!!! Joshua didnt earn shyte.. hes a big pampered baby.. even his gold medal was bullshyte!