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    Adonis Stevenson retained his World Boxing Council light-heavyweight title on Saturday after fighting Sweden's Badou Jack to a majority draw in which no judge scored him a winner. Stevenson, a 40-year-old southpaw, kept the title after two judges scored the bout 114-114 and the third saw Jack as a 115-113 winner in the title bout at Toronto.
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    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
    Adonis Stevenson retained his World Boxing Council light-heavyweight title on Saturday after fighting Sweden's Badou Jack to a majority draw in which no judge scored him a winner. Stevenson, a 40-year-old southpaw, kept the title after two judges scored the bout 114-114 and the third saw Jack as a 115-113 winner in the title bout at Toronto.
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    Here comes a trilogy

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    • #3
      I can't be mad at a draw. Stevenson didn't win but he banked enough rounds to get a draw. He took and early lead and it seemed to me that Jack's gameplan was to wait for Stevenson to tire.

      Stevenson is pushing 40 and has been inactive so it makes sense but you need to adjust/have a plan B or at least be more active than Jack was early on.

      Jack just doesn't have that pop. Stevenson on the other hand was keeping Jack honest but he has had stamina issues before after the 6th.

      This fight was close. I wouldn't mind if Jack had won but this was too close.

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      • #4
        And Bellew fancies his chances, not a hope

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        • #5
          ... Stevenson is old... he should rather take a "good bye" fight in Quebec, and then retire...

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          • #6
            If Stevenson was Badou Jacks age hed have ****ed him up, Badou didn't wanna get near him until he got tired after 5 rounds , Badou hadn't done **** really until then.
            He did good for his age but he's no Bhop in terms of stamina
            Bivol beats both but Stevenson a danger early to anyone

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            • #7
              No rematch please. Gvozdyk is supposed to have next. Jack just dodged his mandatory for the WBA, Bivol, to get this one payday. Stevenson has dodged his mandatories for years, most recently again to make this fight. They both got at least one mulligan, and a payday here. Now, Gvozdyk deserves to get his. He's waited more than his share of time. If Stevenson beats him, then of course, he can rematch Jack if he'd rather do that and keep ducking the top of the division (Bivol, Kovalev, Beterbiev), but the fight is owed to Gvozdyk immediately.

              There is a belief out there that Floyd Mayweather and Al Haymon have paid off the WBC, and that the WBC does whatever they say, specifically Mauricio Sulaiman. Floyd was so confident that he runs the WBC, in the post fight press conference he was dictating what would happen as if it's up to him. He said "they will run it back" next, despite the WBC ruling otherwise. Unless the WBC wants that belief to become a certainty in the minds of all boxing fans, they need to start enforcing the rules. This has gotten completely out of hand at 175 especially.

              Plus, right now, the stock of the Stevenson-Jack fight has gone down. Stevenson looked old, and Jack looked very limited. There is not a lot of excitement out there for the rematch. Going into this fight, there was some excitement for it because people believed it was a fight between two top 5 light heavyweights. Now, based on the fight we saw, very few believe that anymore. It will be much harder to sell a fight between two lower top ten light heavyweights, a fight between an old boxer and a flawed boxer, than it was to sell a fight between two top 5 light heavyweights, which is what the perception was before.

              BUT, if Stevenson fights Gvozdyk and beats him, and the thing about Gvozdyk is he makes big defensive errors at times and does not have a great chin, then suddenly Stevenson's stock will skyrocket again in the minds of fans, even if it's a mirage the PERCEPTION will still skyrocket, and that will then make the rematch with Jack much bigger. Or, if Gvozdyk wins, who will he want to fight? Kovalev is his friend. Beterbiev would be very difficult for him to beat. So, the best option for a tuneup first title defense for Gvozdyk will be Badou Jack.

              Stevenson-Gvozdyk next, if not Kovalev-Stevenson, just make too much sense, plus the WBC's reputation is 100% on the line this time like never before, because, as I said, the situation has gotten out of hand at 175 especially, and it's just become far too blatant, something that cannot be explained away like all the other su****ious situations the WBC has been involved with. But with many of those, there were certain elements that were left up to doubt just enough for the WBC to defend their reputation. Not here. It has appeared like blatant corruption for years now, and ordering Gvozdyk as the mandatory was supposed to be the WBC's last stand to make the situation right and re-assert its integrity. If they go back on their last stand, if they go back on the one ruling that was supposed to prove they are not corrupt, then it will just way, way too obvious, and there will be no explaining it away this time.

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              • #8
                As for my preferred scenario, with the WBC, unifications can take precedence over mandatories. So what I actually would like to see is Kovalev-Stevenson headlining, and then to make it right for Gvozdyk and Jack, you can have them fight each other on the undercard. You could make it a PPV especially in Canada, but maybe the USA as well, one that can sell a decent 130k to 220k in the US, which will nicely take care of all four fighters, plus Canadian PPV, UK rights, Russian TV, etc etc. That would be a real nice card.

                You could even put Bivol against Marcus Browne as the 3rd co-main on the PPV, since neither of them demand big purses at this point in their careers either. That would really stack it, and every fan of the LHW division would be interested in that card. Then the winners fight in some combination, and Beterbiev can get brought into the action next time out as well.

                Something like that is what needs to happen. But whatever happens, either Gvozdyk or Kovalev have earned their shot. Jack got his already and unfortunately underwhelmed in many ways, although I admire his heart. He did not give up, but he did not go for the win either when Stevenson was hurt. I think his stamina failed him. Whatever the case, I have no interest in the rematch until Gvozdyk or Kovalev get their shots. It's far past time that the two sides of the LHW divide started to mix. That's where the real interesting matchups lie, not in these in-house matchups between guys on the apparently super overhyped side of the light heavyweight divide.

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                • #9
                  When the ref warned jack for low blow which didn’t seem that bad , I think Adonis was selling it , it took jacks body attack away. Why wasn’t Adonis warned for holding ? I mean every time they exchanges on the inside he was holding. I understand if your you tie the guy up but every time ? This also took away from jacks attack.

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                  • #10
                    I would like a rematch anywhere but Canada his promoters must be paying outrageous sums to these challengers to keep them from going anywhere else but Canada...

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