So he isnt fighting Ortiz?
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Fighting pulev is obvious really. The way WBC works he would not only have to fight Ortiz then Breazeale , he probably would have to wait another year before they enforce a matchup so he would be waiting to 2020 or more likely 2021 for a title shot.
With fighting Pulev he would be guaranteed a shot by end of 2019 latest.
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Can't blame Whyte really, he is done with the corrupt WBC who are protecting Wilder by putting up ridiculous roadblocks. I also find it hilarious how Wilder fans have built Ortiz up to be some kind of monster, you do realise the British public saw his last couple of fights before Wilder live on sky sports and he looked absolute garbage!
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Originally posted by Throwingbombs View PostCan't blame Whyte really, he is done with the corrupt WBC who are protecting Wilder by putting up ridiculous roadblocks. I also find it hilarious how Wilder fans have built Ortiz up to be some kind of monster, you do realise the British public saw his last couple of fights before Wilder live on sky sports and he looked absolute garbage!
Breezeele is Mando and wilder could choose a voluntary defence after that . Whyte wanted to get it on paper that if he beat Ortiz wilder would fight him next . Some reason wbc / pbc don’t want to risk wilder with Whyte
Pulev is a good fight anyway but I would have preferred Ortiz to get his old ass beat to prove a point the dudes 50 with no gas tank
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Originally posted by larryxxx.. View PostSo he isnt fighting Ortiz?
It's not a final eliminator, it doesn't secure him a shot at the WBC title next, it may not even guarantee him a shot in the next year as it took the WBC 2 years and 10 months to enforce Wilder's last mandatory shot. So if Whyte does beat Ortiz he gets a title shot maybe around sometime in late 2021, by then Wilder would be 35, hell he might of retired by then.
The WBC are obviously taking orders from Haymon. Wilder asked Whyte to fight Ortiz a while ago for a shot at him and now the WBC order an eliminator, coincidence? I think not.
Also remember they did this to Tyson Fury too. He fought Johnson in an eliminator and won. Stiverne and Arreola fought the other eliminator and the winners were meant to fight for the vacant title, but instead of giving Fury a vacant title shot with Stiverne, they for some reason gave Arreola another shot despite losing the eliminator.
Fury after winning that eliminator never got given a final eliminator or a title shot despite his high ranking with the WBC. He waiting 2 years and they never game him a chance to fight for their belt or even earn a mandatory, they took their cut from the Johnson fight and then turned their back on him. So Fury fought Wlad instead.
Suffice to say Whyte won't ever get his shot unless it's put down in writing by the WBC by giving him and actual final eliminator. Which is why Hearn is pushing for the Ortiz fight to be made a final eliminator and not just some made up 2nd final eliminator which in reality could mean anything and the WBC could change their mind saying a 2nd final eliminator isn't a real final eliminator just another eliminator.
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Originally posted by 5000boxing View PostWtf? AJ destroyed whtye in 7rds.. AJ ducked ortiz! Wilder destroyed ortiz.. hunter vs hunter! How does wilder get credit for ko Dillian shyte? Wilder is going after A Jucing J!!! The man who destroyed whtye.. an after everything whyte said about ortiz being 60,000 years old.. ortiz has publicly said he wants whyte for running his mouth.. so dont be ****** bro.. whtye is running for his life.. an u sound ridiculously backing that fool.. I admit, I would love too see wilder vs shyte, over Breazeale. Nor do i know how he got the mandatory spot.. but u sound dumb for acting like its wilders fault for the wbc makings ridiculous mandatories.. but since we are on subjects.. how did dillian shyte become so highly ranked? He arguable lost to chinsora.. he looked like shyte vs browne.. you u.k dudes are hilarious.. whyte best claim to fame is going 7 rds with A JUICING J before getting KOed??? Get the **** outta here with that pure bullsh!!
How can the champion of champions duck an ordinary Ortiz that just got his first title shot few weeks ago? AJ has defeated 2 champions and strip them of their belts, defeating a serial champion in the process claiming another belt along side.
If your senses were right and you claim to have been watching boxing for a while, you will know no fighter holds 4 belts with ducking people like Ortiz.
Ortiz has never and will never be a HW champion.
Your darling wilder after 40 fights have never fought a champion... Am sure you are proud of a padded record.
Your wilder just need a pay day for retirement, it's that simple.
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Originally posted by Laligalaliga View PostYou absolutely know nothing about the hallmark of a champion.
How can the champion of champions duck an ordinary Ortiz that just got his first title shot few weeks ago? AJ has defeated 2 champions and strip them of their belts, defeating a serial champion in the process claiming another belt along side.
If your senses were right and you claim to have been watching boxing for a while, you will know no fighter holds 4 belts with ducking people like Ortiz.
Ortiz has never and will never be a HW champion.
Your darling wilder after 40 fights have never fought a champion... Am sure you are proud of a padded record.
Your wilder just need a pay day for retirement, it's that simple.
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Originally posted by 5000boxing View PostIt's hard to argue with casuals. Anyone who knows boxing knows ortiz is not ordinary.. secondly, ortiz skill and power is light years ahead of that kickboxer whyte and A juicing J! Third of all.. joshua fought klitschko after a two year layoff lost for the wba, and Ibo strap.. wtf.. parker (wbo) was not a true champion.. nor was martin (ibf).. u sound like a straight casual. Joshua needs to face fury before he can claim the u.k as their national champ.. if he wants world respect.. he need to accept his highest payday an come to america and get destroyed! #bomb squad!!!
I really would love to see the Ortiz-Whyte fight but C'mon that fight is rubbish as long as it is not a final eliminator bout.
I also agree that the decision to make Breazeale the mando for Wilder should be appealed. No one knows the way of the WBC 'nymore... Has Sulaiman told the boxing publics the reason Breazeale emerged the mando to Wilder? Something must be happening under ground.
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Pulev schools Whyte and Ortiz. Leave your emotions towards AJ and or Wilder out of this age Pulev is a more accomplished boxer and credible threat to either the two best in the division.
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