Comments Thread For: Atlas: Joshua's Handlers Should Keep Him Away From Wilder

[Letmaku]

The money should be paid in full or this is just a foolish game.

[5000boxing]

Atlas is right wilder only fights bums and AJ is more known and more popular and is the a side no know who tha Alabama fraud is . Aj should ignore wilder he’s a joke of a champion

Lol.. type away!! we need more laughs.. this is pure comedy! I wish I knew the backstory of your hate! Maybe when Wilder went to the u.k to get ready for Povetkin.. your chick must have went to his gym to watch him workout.??? Why all the hate eddie? Or is this joshua's fake account? Lmao

[Letmaku]

Veteran trainer and ESPN expert analyst, Teddy Atlas, believes IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) should wait a little while longer before facing WBC champion Deontay Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) in a full division unification.
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Correct my Teddy Bear!

[Scipio2009]

That's what surprises me. if AJ fights isn't going to be made, he will be fighting Breazele "The AJ's leftover". Why not fight Whyte for 3 times more than that, if he isn't afraid? Even if these shenanigans with WBC mandatory get on the way, Eddie offered Wilder so much to fight Whyte that Wilder would have plenty to pay Breazele the step aside money and promise him the next fight, bar unification with AJ.

If Wilder was using Whyte as a leverage card to get AJ, that was already called and didn't work. Just fight Whyte, who should be, btw, a legitimate WBC mandatory instead of Breazele. Whyte's opposition is notably higher than Breazele's and, again, he brings 3 times more money than Breazele. Why not fight him if AJ's fight does not materialize???

Wilder is going to head to the UK and make a voluntary defense of his title on Whyte's home turf for $4m, knowing full well that Matchroom Sport is easily going to see $10m+ on the fight (fight will sell out O2 Arena, has committment from Showtime in the US, and draw well on Sky Box Office; both Wilder and Whyte have had fights on Sky Sports)? lol, gtfoh.

Wilder isn't Anthony Joshua, but why would the model that's been effective for Matchroom Sport change?

Deontay Wilder owns the show, Wilder and Matchroom Sport agree on a budget that makes sense, and Wilder gets 65%-70% of the proceeds (Joshua is apparently on an 80/20 split with Matchroom), 60%-65% of the proceeds if Matchroom Sport fronts him his $2m while he waits on the back-end.

Wilder has been schooled well enough, by Haymon and Finkell to understand his worth to an event.

Part of the reason why Wilder's camp was willing to offer $50m against 50% of the take to Anthony Joshua for the fight in Las Vegas; a major 2am fight is generally worth a certain amount (due to what they've seen with Floyd's fights on Sky Box Office), Las Vegas and the sponsors generally put up a certain amount to host events, and the experience on USPPV helps give an idea for what to ballpark with Showtime/CBS.

If the fight crosses beyond the sport like Oscar/Floyd, Floyd/Canelo, Floyd/Pacquiao or Floyd/McGregor, they split the boom 50/50 (would not shock me if they're looking at $50m to Joshua, $20-$30m to Wilder as their expectation for the event).

[Laligalaliga]

umm this American wants the fight. If we recall it was AJ who asked for 50 million and now that , that has been offered to him he seems to have lost his pen . If team AJ wanted to wait for this fight to happen then they should have just come right out and said it. It’s a bad look to make a demand, then that demand is met and still no fight .

Lost pen is not the challenge. Team AJ need the money upfront then other details can be sorted out but they are yet to get credit alert.

[SkillspayBills]

Simply disgusting. Atlast disgusts me with this commentary. ****ing gross.

[Scipio2009]

AJ is going to make a guarantee $50 mil for one fight. He's a young fighter so whatever happens he can always bounce back and so can Wilder. You can either win, lose or draw so you have 2/3 of a chance not to lose in theory anyway. Get paid and let the chips fall where they may it's called "prize fighting."

The only outcome that could literally hurt Joshua is being wiped out in the 5th round after taking a one-sided beating from Wilder over the first 4 rounds.

Every other outcome pretty much guarantees a rematch of the fight, with a possibility of a trilogy, and Joshua can still go home, rebuild in front of his stadiums of fans as he gets back on track for another shot at global glory.

If he's good enough, there's no reason to avoid the fight now.

[Laligalaliga]

Boxing in the United States is purely and all about the commercials... That's why through history their fighters have ducked or marinated fights that should have happened years before boxing fans saw those fights. Nevertheless, Joshua is Joshua and Joshua fears no one. He is a superior black man!!! An African warrior of Nigerian stock. Where Joshua comes from in Nigeria they eat human beings there and this is why I pity Wilder

Brother please don't over exaggerate, Nigerians don't eat human beings. I will assume it sarcasm.

[Laligalaliga]

dude you are out of your ****ing mind. Wilder turning down 12 million is because he knows he can make more . Tell me another HW unification fight where one fighter took a flat fee ? Your man made a demand , the demand was meet and still nothing. If Wilder made a demand and that demand was met I would be saying the same thing about him. Team AJ wants to wait and they have publicly stated this . Spin this how you want . You just proved you are a moron.

It's funny after making an offer, your managers went into hiding, cancelling all meetings.
It's funny huh!!!

[Laligalaliga]

Wilder made the demand 'anywhere, anytime, it's not about the money'.

He got offered $12.5m to fight Joshua in September at Wembley on a 10 day deadline. He turned it down because he believes he can get a better deal.

Joshua made the demand 'bring me $50m'. Wilder brought $50m. Joshua said 'Lets roll'. Shelly Finkel put a 24hr deadline and refused to talk to Team Joshua.

Now they are negotiating presumably a new deal somewhere in between.

Wilders demands were met. He said no. Joshuas' demand was met, he said yes but Finkel held up the deal.

Now do you see? Stop sucking Wilders nuts and maybe you will see who is trying to make this fight more.

Exactly how the scenario played out. If you are a producer, you will make a good movie.
These wilder boys are so deluded, thou am not surprised. Team AJ wants the 50mil upfront before the details are ironed out. No credit alert since then.