Comments Thread For: Arum: Lomachenko Proved Versus Linares 'That He's a Real Fighter'

[markther]

"There are a bunch of so called “boxing experts” who really don’t know sh..about boxing."
Well good thing for us that you know more about boxing than experts who have followed the boxing for decades. There is a big dilemma in quantum physics around the implications of string theory. It seems Hawking, Feynman and the rest of that gang don't know sh...about it. Perhaps you can turn your attention to that problem and shed some light on those issues. There is a Nobel prize in it for you.

They should give a Nobel Peace Prize to ALL the Undisputed Dummies on this post. There seems to be a lot of losers here who have so much time to post nonsense who really don’t know anything about boxing. I’ve boxed before and was undefeated, a golden gloves champion, highly touted, and a projected Olympian before a detached retina forced me to hang them up. And I came back to help some great middleweights for a short period. I’ve been a boxing gym rat my entire life. But threads like this are really for wannabe fighters, imaginary wannabe fans; who never had the freakin heart to get into the ring and take a blow or try to avoid one. So they sit back and disperse a bunch of idiotic rhetoric. And their posts are really comical because they don’t really know s...about “real boxing” and all the nuances inside the ring. Some fighters read posts here and start laughing in the gym. Arm chair QB’s who don’t know anything about boxing. They just go on and on and talk about nothing that has anything to do with what actually happens inside the ring. They don’t understand matchups, and body positioning, and footwork, and leverage and something as simple as controlling your breathing within a round or throughout a fight. I’ve been around some great fighters and trainers also who believe a lot of the boxing experts are a joke to because none of them actually got into a ring either. They laugh at that over weight joke Dan Rafael. He reads from a freaking teleprompter-LOL. Teddy atlas is the only commentator or so called boxing expert that fighters actual have a little respect for but they think he is a joke too. I’ve been around people who commentate during fights and they actually told me the networks are telling us to pump up certain fighters for revenue purposes when we get in the air. Its all about building a public perception to cash in short term and long term. A lot of the losers here are caught up in the brain washing and propaganda. Until the network decides a fighter isn’t cashable and then they allow them to get exposed and build up another one. But fulfill your fantasy here instead of having the heart to at least go to a gym and spare at least 1 time. Undisputed Dummy-LOL. Your ranking is based on a lot of posts; not any “real” knowledge about boxing, remember that-Undisputed Loser-but I love reading the “amateur posts here and messing with people here. It’s very entertaining. But there are a number of boxing gyms across the US, you should try one instead of pretending on here that you are a real boxing fan. You would probably get your ass kicked though-LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!

[UNBIASED BOXING]

All he proved is that his chin is suspect by getting dropped by a fighter with a 56% KO%. That fight only showed he doesn’t belong in the ring with top competition like Garcia. Over rated bum that will lose to him and Tank. ****chenko beat Russell who beat nobody great. Beat Walters who beat nobody great. Beat Rigondeaux who beat nobody great. Beat Linares who beat nobody great. So what makes Lomochenko great again? His promoter Arum, who puts him in the right fights to brain wash the public into thinking this guy is great or that he belongs on a P4P list with other fighters who are actually great. He isn’t better than Half of the fighters in the top 10 P4P list. Not better than Crawford, Spence, Garcia, Alvarez, or even GGG. All of those boxers are probably saying, WTF, he isn’t better than us. There are a bunch of so called “boxing experts” who really don’t know sh..about boxing. The same geniuses who predict fights wrong MOST of the time. I call them the Jack Ass Panel, the voters for the pound for pound list-Dan Rafael, Teddy Atlas, Bernardo Pilatti, Eric Raskin, Nick Parkinson, Nigel Collins, Joe Cortez, Charles Moynihan, Claudia Trejos and Salvador Rodriguez..GTFOH....F......Blind witnesses. joe Cortez actually predicted Linares to win. Stop getting drunk old man. All of these losers are gettting paid off by Arum to overrate Flunko...

But watch him get exposed against Mikey Garcia IF he takes that fight and Arum has the heart to put him in the ring against him. And Tank will mop the floor with his over rated, over hyped ass!!!!

He got dropped by a bigger fighter, but didn't seem hurt. Mikey Garcia got dropped by Roman Martinez, or did you not watch that fight? You probably didn't, but you feel so threatened by Lomachenko that you don't care. You're not a boxing fan, you don't know **** about boxing. The irony, you claim his chin is suspect but then mention Mikey .

Tank hasn't even fought a top 5 guy in his division. But yet, Tank will beat him? Is that why Tank is ducking Lomachenko?

Nicholas Walters and Gary Russell Jr. are both better wins than anyone Tank has faced. Walters has a stoppage over Donaire, Vic, and has never had a close fight with anyone except that blatant robbery against Sosa.

Walters was a top 3 guy at 126, and a top 5 guy at 130
Gary is currently probably a top 3-5 guy at 126 (maybe better).
Rigo was the #1 guy at 122 and a P4P fighter. He beat Donaire who was virtually seen as a good P4P fighter, but you claim he didn't beat anyone, LOL.
Linares was #2 at 135.

Stop hating and get over it. Loma has faced and beaten top fighters in each weight class, and has climbed up in weight despite being a fully grown man. Let me know who Mikey and Tank have beaten that are better than those wins .

[markther]

Too early to be trolling.

See my response to Verus at around 11:35 am. It applies to your dumb ass too-punk ass loser-wannabe boxing fa...-lol

[markther]

He got dropped by a bigger fighter, but didn't seem hurt. Mikey Garcia got dropped by Roman Martinez, or did you not watch that fight? You probably didn't, but you feel so threatened by Lomachenko that you don't care. You're not a boxing fan, you don't know **** about boxing.

Tank hasn't even fought a top 5 guy in his division. But yet, Tank will beat him? Is that why Tank is ducking Lomachenko?

Nicholas Walters and Gary Russell Jr. are both better wins than anyone Tank has faced. Walters has a stoppage over Donaire, Vic, and has never had a close fight with anyone except that blatant robbery against Sosa.

Walters was a top 3 guy at 126, and a top 5 guy at 130
Gary is currently probably a top 3-5 guy at 126 (maybe better).
Rigo was the #1 guy at 122 and a P4P fighter. He beat Donaire who was virtually seen as a good P4P fighter, but you claim he didn't beat anyone, LOL.
Linares was #2 at 135.

Stop hating and get over it. Loma has faced and beaten top fighters in each weight class, and has climbed up in weight despite being a fully grown man. Let me know who Mikey and Tank have beaten that are better than those wins .

See my response to Verus at around 11:35 am. Apparently it applies to your dumb, clueless ass too-LOL!!!!!!!!

[markther]

Liver Shot

This is a boxing lesson for all the wannabe boxing fans that are drooling over Lomos KO liver shot from someone who has actually had been in the ring and sparred quite a few times. It’s a shot taught at a very young age in the gym. Maybe your loser asses can try to execute one in a “real fight” instead of cyber space-LOL!!!!


The liver shot has to be thrown at an precise angle. In order to achieve the slight upward angle and get up under those floating ribs, the perfect punch is a hybrid between the left hook and left uppercut, referred to as a “shovel punch.” The shovel is a beautiful punch, but it needs to be set up as most power punches do just like Lomo did the ENTIRE fight. When a fight dehydrates a lot like Linares did blowing up to 152, he is more of a target for this strategy. The best way to set up a shovel is to first, of course, avoid getting hit and move inside off a slip or a bob and weave to your left and throw it. During the initial force of a liver strike, the nerves in the area are impacted and undergo tiny chemical reactions with every electrical nerve impulse. With a hard enough hit, the chemical reactions in these nerves become unbalanced, and the resulting shock travels along the “vagal nerve” network. It takes time for the nerves to recover from this shock, which can result in a brief loss of breath or even a sensation of temporary paralysis. It’s like hitting your funny bone, but on a much larger scale. Additionally, more severe activation of the vagus nerve can cause a simultaneous cardioinhibitory and vasodepressive response, meaning a rapid drop in heart rate as well as a sharp drop in blood pressure. Most people experience a mixed response of the two, ultimately resulting in syncope, or fainting. The occurrence of vasovagal syncope is amplified by pain, high stress, and dehydration, all of which are commonly present in a fight setting. Enough damage to the vagus nerve can result in long-term vagal dysfunctions, such as irregular heartbeat, difficulty swallowing and breathing, and digestive disorders. However, if you’re lucky enough to endure a liver shot and still retain consciousness, don’t consider yourself off the hook. Blunt force to the livercan still result in crushing of blood vessels as well as liver lacerations or tears, causing internal bleeding. The structures in proximity to the liver, such as the pancreas and spleen, are subject to laceration and puncture. Rib fractures are also a concern. While a formidable tactic which will render your opponent senseless, being on the receiving end of a liver shot can be cause for concern far beyond the loss of a single fight. So Linares won’t fight anytime soon. That needs to be monitored going forward.

[jackblack008]

he got lucky with that liver shot. till that time he was eating lot of punches from Linares and wasunable to do anything about it. the scores were also even. I think this is his ceiling. forget fighting Mikey Garcia.#toosmall

[chrisJS]

This is a boxing lesson for all the wannabe boxing fans that are drooling over Lomos KO liver shot from someone who has actually had been in the ring and sparred quite a few times. It’s a shot taught at a very young age in the gym. Maybe your loser asses can try to execute one in a “real fight” instead of cyber space-LOL!!!!


The liver shot has to be thrown at an precise angle. In order to achieve the slight upward angle and get up under those floating ribs, the perfect punch is a hybrid between the left hook and left uppercut, referred to as a “shovel punch.” The shovel is a beautiful punch, but it needs to be set up as most power punches do just like Lomo did the ENTIRE fight. When a fight dehydrates a lot like Linares did blowing up to 152, he is more of a target for this strategy. The best way to set up a shovel is to first, of course, avoid getting hit and move inside off a slip or a bob and weave to your left and throw it. During the initial force of a liver strike, the nerves in the area are impacted and undergo tiny chemical reactions with every electrical nerve impulse. With a hard enough hit, the chemical reactions in these nerves become unbalanced, and the resulting shock travels along the “vagal nerve” network. It takes time for the nerves to recover from this shock, which can result in a brief loss of breath or even a sensation of temporary paralysis. It’s like hitting your funny bone, but on a much larger scale. Additionally, more severe activation of the vagus nerve can cause a simultaneous cardioinhibitory and vasodepressive response, meaning a rapid drop in heart rate as well as a sharp drop in blood pressure. Most people experience a mixed response of the two, ultimately resulting in syncope, or fainting. The occurrence of vasovagal syncope is amplified by pain, high stress, and dehydration, all of which are commonly present in a fight setting. Enough damage to the vagus nerve can result in long-term vagal dysfunctions, such as irregular heartbeat, difficulty swallowing and breathing, and digestive disorders. However, if you’re lucky enough to endure a liver shot and still retain consciousness, don’t consider yourself off the hook. Blunt force to the livercan still result in crushing of blood vessels as well as liver lacerations or tears, causing internal bleeding. The structures in proximity to the liver, such as the pancreas and spleen, are subject to laceration and puncture. Rib fractures are also a concern. While a formidable tactic which will render your opponent senseless, being on the receiving end of a liver shot can be cause for concern far beyond the loss of a single fight. So Linares won’t fight anytime soon. That needs to be monitored going forward.

You write too much especially since nobody is reading your little biased hissy fits. You are shook its cool.

Funny you say Loma is a bum and then say you are a good boxer. He's WAY better than you. He did more as an amateur than you, has done more as a pro and has a TON more talent than you.

Funny when armchair fans call top fighters (or any championship caliber guy) a bum. Exposing you as a casual.

[markther]

You write too much especially since nobody is reading your little biased hissy fits. You are shook its cool.

Funny you say Loma is a bum and then say you are a good boxer. He's WAY better than you. He did more as an amateur than you, has done more as a pro and has a TON more talent than you.

Funny when armchair fans call top fighters (or any championship caliber guy) a bum. Exposing you as a casual.

I never said I was a good boxer, I said YOU or none of the losers here are-LOL! I already know you have never been inside the ring; Undisputed Dummy-LOL!!! Your punk ass probably has never been in a street fight or got your ass kicked way too many times for you to remember-LOL!! And how can someone get shook in cyberspace? Your a real f....idiot with that comment-wannabe boxing fan! Apparently you read my posts-LOL!!!!

[chrisJS]

I never said I was a good boxer, I said YOU or none of the losers here are-LOL! I already know you have never been inside the ring; Undisputed Dummy-LOL!!! Your punk ass probably has never been in a street fight or got your ass kicked way too many times for you to remember-LOL!! And how can someone get shook in cyberspace? Your a real f....idiot with that comment-wannabe boxing fan! Apparently you read my posts-LOL!!!!

I skimmed it.

I'm a real Boxing fan. Go to about 15 shows a year just went to NYC this pst weekend. Going to Vegas next month. Watched Boxing in 5 different countries in different continents.

All the other stuff is untrue. I can tell by the way you talk and get too emotional telling people who to root for that you barely go to any fights and out no miles in. A fake Boxing fan that adds nothing to the industry just salty message board tears.

[Bronx2245]

Bob, stop talking about guys "from above." Loma is 30! If he was meant to be a Jr. WW, or WW, he would already be there! Bob is eager for that Pacquiao fight! Who's after that...Crawford?