Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua Reportedly To Sign 100 Million Extension

**Fire4231** · 05-14-2018, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by yammy25

Im pretty sure the figure will be based on certain eventualities or lack thereof.

I imagine if AJ loses his belts or suffers a degree of losses, itd be written in the contract that his marketability and drawing power and financial demand would suffer thus commanding a lower figure based on his standing within the industry at the time.

I disagree, although the contract may be also designed to protect against a loss, the primary focus for Hearn will be profit optimization. If they are offering AJ a 33 million dollar a year guarantee, what does Matchbook gain beyond that to make such an offer? Factor that in with a 1 billion dollar deal and it makes 100 million for a fight look small. That�s what is at risk for Hearn and that�s why it places a complication on Wilder vs Joshua.

**Tygshsu** · 05-14-2018, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Fire4231

I disagree, although the contract may be also designed to protect against a loss, the primary focus for Hearn will be profit optimization. If they are offering AJ a 33 million dollar a year guarantee, what does Matchbook gain beyond that to make such an offer? Factor that in with a 1 billion dollar deal and it makes 100 million for a fight look small. That’s what is at risk for Hearn and that’s why it places a complication on Wilder vs Joshua.

Well the alternative is Hearn putting on Joshua v Povetkin, Joshua v Whyte 2 and Joshua v Miller while making a loss on all three fights given the Numbers will be similar to the Parker and Takam Fights.Joshua v Wilder is the only fight where Hearn can make a big profit on...or Joshua v Fury but Fury 1/2 years from being a elite fighter

**bigjavi973** · 05-14-2018, 11:51 AM

no wonder they want to delay the wilder fight

all the mystique goes away once wilder flattens him

**Fire4231** · 05-14-2018, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Tygshsu

Well the alternative is Hearn putting on Joshua v Povetkin, Joshua v Whyte 2 and Joshua v Miller while making a loss on all three fights given the Numbers will be similar to the Parker and Takam Fights.Joshua v Wilder is the only fight where Hearn can make a big profit on...or Joshua v Fury but Fury 1/2 years from being a elite fighter

That�s why I believe Hearn is waiting to see Wilder Vulnerable. He will make that fight when it�s winnable. They are making tons of money outside of boxing off AJ�s brand.

**Oshio** · 05-14-2018, 01:04 PM

Joshua-Wilder fight may not make the figures we throw around considering the fact that both fighters are relatively known. Tyson Fury-Anthony Joshua is a far popular fight than Joshua-Wilder in my opinion

**juggernaut666** · 05-14-2018, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by JRB123

Let's look at this whole thing for a moment...folks said multiple times that Haymon and company had the money to put down for Joshua to fight Deontay Wilder, right?

Well, how is that the case when Haymon had never done that for any fighter? Mayweather had already been established when he got bought out for 8 million and 1 penny (as the saying goes)...but everyone else had not reached over 2 million.

Here is something that I refer to: remember back in January 2016 when the Barclays Center hosted a world title doubleheader? Charles Martin won the vacant IBF strap via injury to Vyacheslav Glazkov

In the main event, Wilder defended his title against Artur Szpilka and won by knockout

So after that point, Haymon was the adviser for two world champions. A unification fight could have happened by June of that year. However, that was not even on the radar. Martin was considering fighting Breazeale, Arreola, or Szpilka and Wilder was about to defend against Povetkin, who was the mandatory at the time...

Here's the hangup...If Haymon and company had all that money, then why did they not only lose the purse bid to Ryabinsky but also not consider paying step aside money to Povetkin in order to hold a title unification fight? Don't forget that Wilder supposedly was talking about fighting Wlad after winning the WBC belt in 2015, but nothing came of it.

It's funny that folks keep saying that Haymon had the money but would not make a title unification fight happen with two of his own guys.

"Well, how is that the case when Haymon had never done that for any fighter? "

Because no one ( The Funds generator ) would have been ****** enough to put any large amount into Wilder bc he DOESNT generate any significant attention .

Haymon and Finkel have Joshua ATTACHED to the fight so he can get away with it . Haymon would need a big draw fighter to have reassurance that they will see a profit back.

These morons dont understand that Haymon has to make a profit on the 50 Million so its not just 50 Million hes borrowing bc whoever backing him wants something in return , their not just doing it as a favor ...... lol

The problem is those knuckle heads CANT get the loan unless Hearn agreed to their MYSTERIOUS offer .

What the Wilder dummies dont understand is just bc they have a backer it doesnt mean they will release any money to Haymon until Joshua is officially signed on the agreement .

Thats why Finkel REFUSED any type of formal paper work or draft contract snd stamped a 24 hr deadline on it bc NO promoter with a brain would accept anything like that .

The ******s on this forum dont understand that it IS team Wilder trying to finagle more money nd HAVE stalled the fight NOT Hearn .

This dumbed down fanbase actually encouages Wilder to get more money and they're on here daily crying why the fights not made yet ....how F'ing ****** are these people that cry money isnt important though ?

The answer to Martin is that HE challenged AJ .

Martin was not interested in Wilder bc MONEY .

Theres no way Haymon was going to fork over 5 Million to fight Wilder as the reason above .........

Which is they dont spend their own money in large amounts with Wilder , just look at Ortiz who made 500k .

Martin was also looked at as a threat before Joshua handed him his L...

As a matter of fact Wilder said it was a 50/ 50 fight and ALL the Furys picked Martin to win .

In short its not about getting the 50 Million its about using Joshua to get it for them by agreeing to a fight .

Of course that came with no actual negotiation meetings ? lol

The idiotic ppl on this forum think deals of that magnitude are ironed out over twitter and instagram i guess !

**Fire4231** · 05-14-2018, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by bigjavi973

no wonder they want to delay the wilder fight

all the mystique goes away once wilder flattens him

I agree, Hearn conducting smart business at the fans expense.

**JRB123** · 05-14-2018, 02:00 PM