Loma is the truth, no way anyone can't give him props

[Raggamuffin]

Why? I like Crawford but Lomachenko already has a better resume than him. Some of you yanks are so blind and biased it’s pitiful.

What's pitiful is you ranking Loma who has a loss over Bud who has no losses. That's pitiful.

[Raggamuffin]

To even be considered? LOL you're trippin' hard. You do realize that everyone on the planet has him as #1 or #2, yet YOU say he needs to beat Mikey to be "considered"...damn salty much?

Man is a 3 division champion in 12 fights, took on the best man in the division in his last division move, game, set, match.

I think Loma will get the Floyd type of hate for years to come...

No mater how much Floyd dominated, there will be 50 threads after the fight people hating and bringing some nonsense....pathetic. They still bring his ass up any chance...

But as usual, lots of confused morons jumping on Loma's nuts making his fans look bad.....same old ****.

I'll just be tuning in to watch some


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On another note, yes Loma has proven that he is the truth, if he can beat a man like Mikey then it really becomes a case of waiting till he ages or bites off more then he can chew by moving further up to 140lb which I think is just too big for him.

But boxing is in a good place, so much talent out there.

You got Loma, Spence, TC, Usyk, AJ...

Now we just gotta get them all to fight.

This is actually a good and yet convoluted post. Loma isn't pfp the best, and I don't rank him in my top 3, but he is ranked top 5 pfp due to beating the smallish Rigo. Loma hasn't proven to be the truth yet. Garcia hasn't, Bud hasn't yet.

GG imo is the only truly tested fighter at the elite level in my top 5.

Loma just passed the chin test. In order to be special you have to beat someone special. Bud, Garcia, Loma, Canelo and GG haven't yet. Canelo and GG took that chance. We haven't gotten an answer yet.

[Real King Kong]

Bud climbed upo the ladder through the natural process of attaining the pfp best title. Unifying titles, beating EVERYONE in style, and not only became champion in 2 divisions, but he became a lineal champion in 2 divisions.

Loma lost, and he never gained revenge. For me he has to beat a guy like Garcia to be a part of the conversation. And beating a good Linares isn't good enough. Garcia wouldve beat the **** out of Linares. I like Linares and think that it's a good win for Loma, but who Linares beaten that pushes Loma over Bud?

Who has Crawford beat that's even on linares level? Postol I guess. Loma has fought better opposition than Crawford. P4p is not about accumulated resume anyway...it's who's the best at this particular time, and Loma is doing it against
the better opposition for the time being.

[Raggamuffin]

Who has Crawford beat that's even on linares level? Postol I guess. Loma has fought better opposition than Crawford. P4p is not about accumulated resume anyway...it's who's the best at this particular time, and Loma is doing it against
the better opposition for the time being.

What level is Linares? And the resume that you overrate for Loma doesn't explain how a loss to Salido which you seem to disregard has Loma ranked higher than Bud, Garcia, GG or Canelo. I don't think any one of the guys Loma has beaten has a better win than even Salido. Walters beating a smallish Donaire ranks high, but he was bigger than Donaire and Rigo had already beaten Donaire.

[Real King Kong]

What level is Linares? And the resume that you overrate for Loma doesn't explain how a loss to Salido which you seem to disregard has Loma ranked higher than Bud, Garcia, GG or Canelo. I don't think any one of the guys Loma has beaten has a better win than even Salido. Walters beating a smallish Donaire ranks high, but he was bigger than Donaire and Rigo had already beaten Donaire.

I absolutely don't make much of the salido loss. How many no hopers did Crawford and every other top fighter face to start their career? It was a close fight that coulda easily gone the other way and salido got put on ***** street at the end...it's not like Loma got his ass kicked or even decisively beaten.
We could play the "who did he beat?" game all day when dissecting resumes...it's just my opinion loma has beaten the better guys. Crawford has beaten a lot of solid guys, but for having over 30 fights and multiple titles, his resume is pretty thin.

[Raggamuffin]

I absolutely don't make much of the salido loss. How many no hopers did Crawford and every other top fighter face to start their career? It was a close fight that coulda easily gone the other way and salido got put on ***** street at the end...it's not like Loma got his ass kicked or even decisively beaten.
We could play the "who did he beat?" game all day when dissecting resumes...it's just my opinion loma has beaten the better guys. Crawford has beaten a lot of solid guys, but for having over 30 fights and multiple titles, his resume is pretty thin.

Loma lost, and he's #5 pfp on my list. And beating the Linares's of the world won't get him ranked pfp the best in the world. Beating someone special will. You haven't owned up to his loss to Salido. And that's why your argument to rank Loma pfp best falls when talking to a guy like me. You "absolutely don't make much of the Salido loss". Really, lmao. He lost doe, check the records. Bud hasn't lost, Canelo lost to Floyd, Garcia and GG haven't lost. But you have Loma ranked higher than them because Loma chose to fight tough comp from the start, lmao.

Consider that.

[Real King Kong]

Loma lost, and he's #5 pfp on my list. And beating the Linares's of the world won't get him ranked pfp the best in the world. Beating someone special will. You haven't owned up to his loss to Salido. And that's why your argument to rank Loma pfp best falls when talking to a guy like me. You "absolutely don't make much of the Salido loss". Really, lmao. He lost doe, check the records. Bud hasn't lost, Canelo lost to Floyd, Garcia and GG haven't lost. But you have Loma ranked higher than them because Loma chose to fight tough comp from the start, lmao.

Consider that.

A guy like you? You mean someone who doesn't get the concept of p4p? It's not about resume or accumulated wins or losses...it's who beats who if they were the same size at a given moment in time. Quality of opposition is a measuring stick to bolster an argument, because it essentially proves how capable a fighter is competing at a high level. You're stuck on something that happened years ago and for the purpose of your argument, treat it like it happened yesterday. This is why I generally avoid p4p arguments. Aside from p4p being a gimmick not really worth arguing about...it usually devolves into some type of career accomplishment award. I have no problem with Crawford being #1 btw, I just found it ridiculous how you said loma has to beat someone much better than anyone Crawford has ever beaten to "even be considered".

[Raggamuffin]

A guy like you? You mean someone who doesn't get the concept of p4p? It's not about resume or accumulated wins or losses...it's who beats who if they were the same size at a given moment in time. Quality of opposition is a measuring stick to bolster an argument, because it essentially proves how capable a fighter is competing at a high level. You're stuck on something that happened years ago and for the purpose of your argument, treat it like it happened yesterday. This is why I generally avoid p4p arguments. Aside from p4p being a gimmick not really worth arguing about...it usually devolves into some type of career accomplishment award. I have no problem with Crawford being #1 btw, I just found it ridiculous how you said loma has to beat someone much better than anyone Crawford has ever beaten to "even be considered".

I don't remember us having a talk about the concept of what pfp means, and my strong opinion isn't fact...lmao. In my book doe that's what Loma has to do to be considered pfp best. Just considered. The Salido debacle still exists, and you still to this day fail to acknowledge the loss and how he could jump such guys as Garcia, Bud, GG or Canelo who were ranked pfp longer than him.

[Mr. 29K]

His resume keeps getting better and better and he is challenging himself every time out. His skill set is amazing and he seems fearless.

Punk azz Larry kissing ass. Phuck out of here convict.

[Citizen Koba]

A guy like you? You mean someone who doesn't get the concept of p4p? It's not about resume or accumulated wins or losses...it's who beats who if they were the same size at a given moment in time. Quality of opposition is a measuring stick to bolster an argument, because it essentially proves how capable a fighter is competing at a high level. You're stuck on something that happened years ago and for the purpose of your argument, treat it like it happened yesterday. This is why I generally avoid p4p arguments. Aside from p4p being a gimmick not really worth arguing about...it usually devolves into some type of career accomplishment award. I have no problem with Crawford being #1 btw, I just found it ridiculous how you said loma has to beat someone much better than anyone Crawford has ever beaten to "even be considered".

Eloquently put. And the exact reason I avoid P4P discussions myself (and when I do always preface with 'P4P is BS, but...'). It wouldn't matter at all except dudes go getting excited insisting that theirs is the only way to see ****.