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  • #41
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    Lol


    So junior Jones is the best guy morales outboxed?

    Morales best a variety of sluggers, not styles. If junior is your pick as the best slick boxer morales outboxed, that just shows lack of variety.


    Zaragoza was like 40 years old and pretty much shot and morales had over twenty pro bouts...
    salido was still world class and loma had 1 fight prior.
    No, I only gave you a name, and Barrera and Pacquiao were fighters with a lot of skills .

    And yeah, Jones is better than all the rivals that Loma beat at this point of his career

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
      No, I only gave you a name, and Barrera and Pacquiao were fighters with a lot of skills .

      And yeah, Jones is better than all the rivals that Loma beat at this point of his career
      And Barrera boxed morales ears off 3 times.

      Manny wasn’t really a fine tuned boxer until about 07, he was still very much a raw 1-2 fighter

      But morales in there with a salido, famoso, etc he gonna outgun them. But put some movement in there like a Raheem, Floyd, loma and morales would be flustered.

      It’s like he looked great vs maidens, but if that was Crawford, morales would have gotten dragged

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      • #43
        Everyone has problems with Loma's movement. Morales would be no different.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          And Barrera boxed morales ears off 3 times.

          Manny wasn’t really a fine tuned boxer until about 07, he was still very much a raw 1-2 fighter

          But morales in there with a salido, famoso, etc he gonna outgun them. But put some movement in there like a Raheem, Floyd, loma and morales would be flustered.

          It’s like he looked great vs maidens, but if that was Crawford, morales would have gotten dragged

          Morales gave hell to Floyd in a sparring but yeah it was only a sparring.

          No, Barrera vs Morales were a very competitive trilogy

          And Manny always had a extraordinary footwork, a lot of speed and a akward style.

          In the bout against Raheem Morales was out of prime and put of weight and with a little motivación

          Morales had a career without spaces, nothing soft he fought with the best of the best in many classes

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          • #45
            Holy **** what a fight. IDK man, that would be fun as hell though, El Terrible was a bad hombre

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            • #46
              Morales of course

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
                Morales gave hell to Floyd in a sparring but yeah it was only a sparring.

                No, Barrera vs Morales were a very competitive trilogy

                And Manny always had a extraordinary footwork, a lot of speed and a akward style.

                In the bout against Raheem Morales was out of prime and put of weight and with a little motivación

                Morales had a career without spaces, nothing soft he fought with the best of the best in many classes
                And Barrera outboxed him all three times, competitive or not, and loma is a much higher caliber technical boxer than Barrera.

                Everything you say about manny, loma is the same, amazing footwork, speed, awkward, but unlike manny, loma has technique

                I do agree, not the best morales when fighting Raheem, and yeah he did have a bunch of wars..

                But there is a reason why morales had wars with guys like injun, because morales was a slugger with boxing skills, not a tactical guy that could fight.

                Like I said before, bob arum was a genius matchmaker.

                There is a reason why bob never matched him vs Stevie, casamoyer, Freitas, Floyd, Castillo, etc

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  And Barrera outboxed him all three times, competitive or not, and loma is a much higher caliber technical boxer than Barrera.

                  Everything you say about manny, loma is the same, amazing footwork, speed, awkward, but unlike manny, loma has technique

                  I do agree, not the best morales when fighting Raheem, and yeah he did have a bunch of wars..

                  But there is a reason why morales had wars with guys like injun, because morales was a slugger with boxing skills, not a tactical guy that could fight.

                  Like I said before, bob arum was a genius matchmaker.

                  There is a reason why bob never matched him vs Stevie, casamoyer, Freitas, Floyd, Castillo, etc
                  Outboxed? Fights were too competitive. How the hell you can say that Barrera outboxed him?

                  Morales fought with a lot of fighters in a lot of divisions, simply was not the correct time to fight with those fighters that you are mentioning.

                  And nop, Loma is a great fighter but he need to do a lot of more things to be in the same league that guys like Barrera , Pacquiao or Morales

                  Hell no.

                  Pacquiao was clearly fastest than Pacquiao, in footwork and in punches

                  No way Loma is in the same level of speed

                  Loma have a more ordered style of boxing.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
                    Outboxed? Fights were too competitive. How the hell you can say that Barrera outboxed him?

                    Morales fought with a lot of fighters in a lot of divisions, simply was not the correct time to fight with those fighters that you are mentioning.

                    And nop, Loma is a great fighter but he need to do a lot of more things to be in the same league that guys like Barrera , Pacquiao or Morales

                    Hell no.

                    Pacquiao was clearly fastest than Pacquiao, in footwork and in punches

                    No way Loma is in the same level of speed

                    Loma have a more ordered style of boxing.


                    Barrera outboxed the morales all three times.. morales could with the ******* exchanges, but Barrera’s superior technical skill is what had him win 2 out of 3 and morales get a gift for his only win.

                    Loma is much better than manny was in 05.. manny was jab jab straight left.... jab jab straight left,, hence why Marquez and morales both ate him up.. manny learned for those fights and evolved, but when morales fought him, manny was a come forward face first volume brawler.


                    Morales would stand no chance against loma...

                    Too technical, too fast, better footwork, better skill, better movement, better combinations, power about the same

                    I love morales and is one of my favorite fighters of all time but loma is better, in nearly every category but chin, and brawling

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