Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Adds Donaire Sr. To His Team For Matthysse Fight

[WesternChamp]

the most important factor in all of this is.. WHO THE FOOK IS MANNY GON SPARE WITH? lol.

it seems like pac is going back to the old days where he just trains to get ready for a fight. he's not studying tapes of his opponent, not working on moves to counter his opponent, etc.

the only problem with this is, pac aint 20 anymore. he's not gonna get away with shiiet like this. guess you gotta let'em learn the hard way. thought he would have learnt from the marquez ko....

[The Problem Child]

Yea that would be interesting especially since ariza recently said he'd work with Manny just not with Freddie. This was right before Freddie got the boot too.

Doubt it though Ariza is currently working with benavidez so it'll probably be some Filipino dude we never heard of

Yeah, I've always thought Ariza played a huge role in Manny's run. His strength and conditioning was off the charts, Manny was a machine.

Yeah, it'll probably be some buboy type guy off the streets Chips Bahoy.

[The Problem Child]

don't think so since ariza ****** his wife.

Wait ... what?!?! llmfaoo XXDD

[WesternChamp]

Yeah, I've always thought Ariza played a huge role in Manny's run. His strength and conditioning was off the charts, Manny was a machine.

Yeah, it'll probably be some buboy type guy off the streets Chips Bahoy.

we only get the see what they put on camera bro...

imo, i feel that ariza came on board at the right time when pac was in the best shape/form of his career. so ariza really didnt do much.

only manny knows the truth and pac prolly feel that ariza is not much help to him. if ariza was really the master mind behind pac's success then he wouldnt have gave ariza the boot. just think about it.

look at the other fighters ariza trained in the past, it wasnt like they were a new fighter all of a sudden once hooking up with him and as a matter of fact, pac got less ko with once he got with ariza.

[The Problem Child]

we only get the see what they put on camera bro...

imo, i feel that ariza came on board at the right time when pac was in the best shape/form of his career. so ariza really didnt do much.

only manny knows the truth and pac prolly feel that ariza is not much help to him. if ariza was really the master mind behind pac's success then he wouldnt have gave ariza the boot. just think about it.

look at the other fighters ariza trained in the past, it wasnt like they were a new fighter all of a sudden once hooking up with him and as a matter of fact, pac got less ko with once he got with ariza.

You think so?

I think Mannys success got to his head, and he got to a point where he felt like he was great no matter who was around him. Plus, Roach was like a father figure to him, and Roach was on Mannys ear about how he didnt like or need him.

I feel like Manny had some sort of drop in power and overall dominance after Ariza left, he looked more vulnerable/human.

You make a good point there, but I have su****ion Ariza gave Manny some exclusive stuff and he stopped doing it after the Roach fiasco to avoid getting in legal trouble with other fighters. I dont think Ariza trusts anyone in the business, and wont risk getting exposed after a close call with Roach.

What do you think?

[WesternChamp]

You think so?

I think Mannys success got to his head, and he got to a point where he felt like he was great no matter who was around him. Plus, Roach was like a father figure to him, and Roach was on Mannys ear about how he didnt like or need him.

I feel like Manny had some sort of drop in power and overall dominance after Ariza left, he looked more vulnerable/human.

You make a good point there, but I have su****ion Ariza gave Manny some exclusive stuff and he stopped doing it after the Roach fiasco to avoid getting in legal trouble with other fighters. I dont think Ariza trusts anyone in the business, and wont risk getting exposed after a close call with Roach.

What do you think?

yeah, i believe ariza wasnt much help to pac. i believe he came on board at the right time. look at all the other fighters that were being s/c by ariza. it wasnt like they became a new fighter all of a sudden.

and pac's decline in power is more so do to his age. aint got nothing to do with ariza. ariza was still with manny when he got slept by marquez so what happen there? you dont think that ko has an effect on pac looking human again?

before pac vs marquez 4, manny was already showing signs of declining, and this is when ariza was still with him. so there is no special shakes, etc. alex just came on at the right time when pac was in the peak of his prime.

[Straight Up]

Wait ... what?!?! llmfaoo XXDD

yeeeep. pac found out during pac-jmm 3. pac went ape shit in his hotel room in the morning of the fight.

they said it was a different story but pac's entourage was too big for it not to leak.

there used to be an article here about pacquiao breaking stuff in his hotel room in here but couldn't find it.

[Bluebird]

yeeeep. pac found out during pac-jmm 3. pac went ape shit in his hotel room in the morning of the fight.

they said it was a different story but pac's entourage was too big for it not to leak.

there used to be an article here about pacquiao breaking stuff in his hotel room in here but couldn't find it.

Don’t twist it around, it was Pac having an affair (the woman is married now and has her own family) at that time when he left his wife in the Philippines while he was training here in the US, some people in his entourage (if not all) knew about it and his wife found out and tried to file a divorce, Roach himself said that during one of those 24/7s. That’s why Pac had a change of heart and changed his religion. That’s when he lost his killer instinct.

[Bluebird]

You think so?

I think Mannys success got to his head, and he got to a point where he felt like he was great no matter who was around him. Plus, Roach was like a father figure to him, and Roach was on Mannys ear about how he didnt like or need him.

I feel like Manny had some sort of drop in power and overall dominance after Ariza left, he looked more vulnerable/human.

You make a good point there, but I have su****ion Ariza gave Manny some exclusive stuff and he stopped doing it after the Roach fiasco to avoid getting in legal trouble with other fighters. I dont think Ariza trusts anyone in the business, and wont risk getting exposed after a close call with Roach.

What do you think?

There’s only one simple explanation to that: Pac’s decline started when he mixed boxing with politics, singing, acting and the worst of all, religion, that’s when he lost his killer instinct.

[Straight Up]

Don’t twist it around, it was Pac having an affair (the woman is married now and has her own family) at that time when he left his wife in the Philippines while he was training here in the US, some people in his entourage (if not all) knew about it and his wife found out and tried to file a divorce, Roach himself said that during one of those 24/7s. That’s why Pac had a change of heart and changed his religion. That’s when he lost his killer instinct.

not twisting it around bra. it is true that pacquiao was womanizing and ****ing that young gal he brought to jimmy kimmel show. so what jinkee did was give him a taste of his medicine.

you don't have to believe what i say but i know what's true.