He's a top 25 fighter of all time in my opinion
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how do you rate the career of manny pacquiao
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Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS View Posti believe what paulie m, said....
"human beings dont have growth spurts at 28-29"
He couldve had the fight earlier, but he was scared of needles, and when he did start submitting to the tests, HE NEVER SCORED ANOTHER KO, he supposedly carried Power, gained stamina, as he moved up in weight
Funny how you believe Paulie when he talks about Canelo, but not Pac
no he couldn't have had the fight earlier cause we know that when pac agreed to full testing in 2011 he still didn't fight and changed his demands. testing was not the reason the fight never happened. it was money. when floyd(forced by showtime) came correct with the money split the fight happened right away. the testing was a bluff
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Originally posted by daggum View Posthow did he have a growth spurt? when he was fighting at 126-130 he was always huge for the weight and put on 15-20 pounds the next day. when he was at 147 he put on no weight the next day. thats called not draining yourself to make weight.
no he couldn't have had the fight earlier cause we know that when pac agreed to full testing in 2011 he still didn't fight and changed his demands. testing was not the reason the fight never happened. it was money. when floyd(forced by showtime) came correct with the money split the fight happened right away. the testing was a bluff
IMO the 2nd best of his generation and one of the 10-12 best boxers I've seen since I started watching the sport.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-08-2018, 11:44 AM.
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He's an all-time great. He moved up so many weight classes and beat some great fighters. At the end of the day, he's still only like 5'5". That's extremely impressive for a guy who's peak weight-class probably should have been around 130-140.
Originally posted by Armchairhero View PostDo we all agree that there is more than likely a 99% chance that he was juiced in his prime?
As much as I like him he goes on the same list as Holyfield and RJJ etc
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Speaking as somebody who's not a fan of him but respected him I'll say he was a definite all-time great and anyone who doesn't think so shouldn't be allowed to even think about Boxing let alone talk about it. After Mayweather fanboys he did/does have the most annoying and pathetic set of fans the sport has ever seen (sorry to the real fans and I know some personally).
I really stopped enjoying or caring about his fights in 2010 (apart from when he fought Marquez) but I did find him to be a very entertaining fighter and one who's fights I can happily go back and enjoy. What he accomplished being a lineal titleholder so young at flyweight and then a very good one at 122 and then what he was able to accomplish at 126 and above is truly remarkable. Not in terms of "titles" I mean in terms of level of opposition. I personally felt he lost all four fights to Marquez but he was very competitive and got official wins over Marquez, Barrera (who was on fire) and a series win over Morales (who was a little past it). Realistically those guys are all great fighters and they gave so many great fights and weren't scared to face great fighters in their primes. He was a big part of that.
I would personally rate him among the top 50 fighters of all-time. Probably around 40 sounds fair and that's not a diss. This sport has a ton of history and legends.
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I can recommend his fights to future fan of the fight game. You will never be bored watching this atg
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I think he is one of the best and one of the most exciting. He is very old and well past prime and still good enough to beat a boxer as good as Vargas with no problem. He was a monster in his prime. I think his best weight is 135 but he still beats most welterweights even now.I think he will beat Lucas.
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