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  • The D3vil
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    #151
    [QUOTE=Ake-Dawg;18755424]
    Originally posted by The D3vil
    1. IF he had fought Derevyechenko y'all would've blasted him for fighting a guy with 12 fights.

    2. Also, why would he spend all his time preparing to fight a guy like Canelo, go through a whole training camp and then change direction to fight a guy like Derevyechenko on short prep time?

    3. What's wrong with making money? It'd be different if Canelo was a so-called bum, like y'all claim GGG likes to fight, but he's the lineal/ring champion and on most people's top 10 P4P list.

    GGG is 36, he should be thinking about fighting the best fighters for the biggest bucks at this age.

    1. Y'all wouldn't have said ****. That's a cop out statement. Also, are you saying fighting a jmw who had been out the ring for two years is better than fighting Dervy who is a mando?

    2. He didn't spend his entire camp preparing to fight Alvarez. The fight had been off since the end of March. You forget the weeks they spent trying to fight Spike and the Mexican welterweight turned junior middleweight.

    3. Nothing wrong with making money. I don't l like the bs spin they put in why they didn't fight Dervy. I also don't like the fan certain fans have promoted the move l ije it was his only option.
    Derevyechenko has 12 fights. Why would the unified champ fight a guy with 12 fights, who's his mandatory on a month's notice?

    I agree it wasn't his ONLY option. Spike could've fought him, but I don't blame him for not wasting his time on Derevyechenko.

    He's 36. He should be fighting either big money fights like his fights against Brook, Jacobs, and Canelo, or fighting to unify with Saunders, or just fighting stay busy fights to prepare him for the first two types of fights.

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      #152
      Originally posted by Street15
      There's nothing to spend. You keep acting like you or I matter in the decision making process. We don't. If I say "ggg won't fight him because saunders want $45m" that doesn't mean you should jump off the deep end and say "Seeeee, you're making excuses for GGG. Now he's gonna listen to you and never negotiate with Saunders"

      Again. You need to be reminded that we are JUST fans. We don't matter. Don't keep thinking we do. (atleast when it comes to negotiating and the negotiation process). This forum, is just that. It's just a forum.

      I moved past it. You keep bringing it up. We agreed that we are just fans. Yet you keep forgetting it somehow.

      And yes, you did answer my question/respond to me. I get it. Just keep in mind, when you talk, you're just a fan. Not at the negotiating table.


      no, it means you should STFU, and stop talking bollocks

      that comment would be no more accurate than your other comment..... because, you wouldn't have a clue, you are just making.....

      SILLY EXCUSES !!

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        #153
        Originally posted by The D3vil
        Derevyechenko has 12 fights. Why would the unified champ fight a guy with 12 fights, who's his mandatory on a month's notice?

        I agree it wasn't his ONLY option. Spike could've fought him, but I don't blame him for not wasting his time on Derevyechenko.

        He's 36. He should be fighting either big money fights like his fights against Brook, Jacobs, and Canelo, or fighting to unify with Saunders, or just fighting stay busy fights to prepare him for the first two types of fights.

        wtf ?

        Derevyanchenko > Spike..... /story

        ridiculous

        how is Spike acceptable, but his mando Derevyanchenko, is not?

        sorry, but the name Spike should never have been mentioned

        suggesting that he is an acceptable opponent is ridiculous

        and btw, if Gennady thought that Derveyanchenko was a bum, he would be in there boots and all lol

        ridiculous

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        • Street15
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          #154
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          no, it means you should STFU, and stop talking bollocks

          that comment would be no more accurate than your other comment..... because, you wouldn't have a clue, you are just making.....

          SILLY EXCUSES !!
          Huh? What excuse? Fans cant make excuses for boxers to not fight other boxers. We talked about this before man. Fans arent at the negotiating table.

          Excuses are ONLY for people who are fighting or who play a part in fight negotiations.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Street15
            Huh? What excuse? Fans cant make excuses for boxers to not fight other boxers. We talked about this before man. Fans arent at the negotiating table.

            Excuses are ONLY for people who are fighting or who play a part in fight negotiations.



            great

            it is great to hear that you are no longer..... ooops, I mean..... not interested, in making silly excuses to justify why Golovkin is (INEXPLICABLY) showing no interest whatsoever in Billy-Joe Saunders

            coz yea, the rest of us find that pretty bizarre

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            • Street15
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              #156
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              great

              it is great to hear that you are no longer..... ooops, I mean..... not interested, in making silly excuses to justify why Golovkin is (INEXPLICABLY) showing no interest whatsoever in Billy-Joe Saunders

              coz yea, the rest of us find that pretty bizarre
              Huh? Fans have never been able to make excuses for boxers.

              You need to realize we are fans. We arent the boxers. We arent at the tables. It's impossible for fans to make excuses for boxers to not fight boxers.

              Do you let people who you dont know and have no relationship with tell you where to live or where to work? They have no bearing. No say so.

              So keep that in mind and stop forgetting that.

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                #157
                Originally posted by Street15
                Huh? Fans have never been able to make excuses for boxers.

                You need to realize we are fans. We arent the boxers. We arent at the tables. It's impossible for fans to make excuses for boxers to not fight boxers.

                Do you let people who you dont know and have no relationship with tell you where to live or where to work? They have no bearing. No say so.

                So keep that in mind and stop forgetting that.

                that is great to hear

                because yea..... every single fighter EVER, is 100% responsible - therefore accountable - for his resume/legacy.....

                they take the fights they want, and they pass on the rest

                pretending anything else, would be lunacy..... especially when there is plenty of evidence on the table suggesting otherwise

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                  #158
                  the only appropriate response to this thread is.....

                  Sanchez is a fkn idiot, because Saunders agreed to their terms last year..... and they were not prepared to face him in June either

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                  • Street15
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    that is great to hear

                    because yea..... every single fighter EVER, is 100% responsible - therefore accountable - for his resume/legacy.....

                    they take the fights they want, and they pass on the rest

                    pretending anything else, would be lunacy..... especially when there is plenty of evidence on the table suggesting otherwise
                    I'm glad you agree. Now, keep that exact same agreement in mind when you speak. You seem to forget we are just fans quite a bit.

                    But to be honest, not every fighter is 100% in control of their resume. A person with only 4 fights doesn't have a legacy nor do they have much of a resume. Plus it's their promoters job to match them with others to make them look good.

                    You know that though. But, let me guess, you're gonna play contrarian and go against that as well. You're gonna somehow say every fighter with only 4 fights should have an everlasting legacy and if they aren't fighting for belts by then, then they should fire their promoter and blame themselves since every single fighter is 100% responsible for their resume.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #160
                      every single fighter EVER, is 100% responsible - therefore accountable - for his resume/legacy.....

                      Originally posted by Street15
                      I'm glad you agree. Now, keep that exact same agreement in mind when you speak. You seem to forget we are just fans quite a bit.

                      But to be honest, not every fighter is 100% in control of their resume. A person with only 4 fights doesn't have a legacy nor do they have much of a resume. Plus it's their promoters job to match them with others to make them look good.

                      You know that though. But, let me guess, you're gonna play contrarian and go against that as well. You're gonna somehow say every fighter with only 4 fights should have an everlasting legacy and if they aren't fighting for belts by then, then they should fire their promoter and blame themselves since every single fighter is 100% responsible for their resume.


                      well, it was a little silly..... you probably should not have wasted your/my time saying it

                      I was obviously referring to veteran/retired fighters

                      I was actually talking about every adult human being on the planet..... it would be childish to somehow blame others for our own decisions

                      regarding the 4-fight rookies..... you build a fighter by exposing him gradually to different styles/levels, that is all part of the game..... if someone with only a handful of fights, or even 10-15, suffered a career-ending injury..... it would be more accurate to say that their career was cut short before it had a chance to get off the ground, rather than judge them by who they faced at that point

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