Comments Thread For: Bellew: You May Laugh, But I'd Beat Ward - Never Faced My Skills

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bellew is the new haye, he somehow has conned the locals into thinking he is good and is now a ppv star calling out names, look what happened to haye when he got his shot at wlad, similar with bellew against anyone half decent

[aboutfkntime]

Originally Posted by Boxing1012 View Post
Yep agree on a lot of those points, especially about being a fan of boxing more than a particular fighter. I love GGG but if I feel someone legitimately beats him I will give that guy credit. No sense in lying to myself. Would still be a fan of GGG, just sometimes you get beat, it's life, it happens.

Just not sure how anyone can watch that Barrera fight, or Bika, (or most of his fights against top level guys) and act like Ward was dominant. There is a way to school a guy over 12 rounds and be dominant without the KO, but it's really hard to do. Lara and Loma are two guys who can do that now.

And when a guy is out-throwing you by 200 punches (Bika and Barrera fights), or 100 (Froch) you are usually not schooling anyone, and you are very likely losing, or at best you are in a close fight. Only fight I can recall where I scored it close with a guy getting outworked by 200+ punches was Hurd/Lara.

I personally rate Floyd as a boxer a couple levels above Ward. Floyd imo was great in his younger days. Then as he moved up, he slowed down and his power waned, and he started taking the highest reward/lowest risk fights he could, and catching guys at the right time.

But I still could watch fights of his against top level guys and say 'OK, that was a clear Floyd round' whereas I honest to God have never been able to say that in a Ward fight where he was fighting a B level guy or above, save for maybe a couple rounds in the Froch fight (and possibly Kessler, but that one was controversial as well as we mentioned).

I think a lot of the Ward hype from 'fans' is because they don't like GGG so they back Ward 100% as the boogeyman against him, regardless of what the facts may be.




When you can't intelligently refute the points someone has made, and instead resort to personal insults, you've lost the debate.

And I have no personal animus towards Ward; he seems like a decent guy, a family man. Just when he gets on the top level, I've never seen a great dominant boxer. He is often about as good as the guy he is facing.

Not a race thing either; Bika and Barrera are both blacker than Ward and I thought they were hard-done in those fights.

kid, I CHOSE not to waste my time with your ******ity lol

it would be idiotic to compare Hypekin with someone like Canelo

who actually will fight anyone, and who has achieved more than Golovkin

but as soon as you started comparing him with Ward you hopped on the short bus to ***witville

I did not reply because I was too busy laughing at you

kid, everyone saw you type that dribble

go hide somewhere lol

[SugarRaRobinson]

Is that how you score a fight ?

IF so please retire your alt immediately.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Yeah u r trippin and sounding ignorant, don’t make yourself look bad.

How?

He cleaned out 168 and Froch ain't want to fight him again.

Does that not make him a blown up super middle?

Read up on it.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Have you ever even seen an Usyk fight?