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  • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    "As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest Nation in history because our people had always believed in two things–that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
    -Bill Clinton

    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/17/n...omination.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

    Quigley was dismissive of the authors who used his writings to support theories of a world domination conspiracy. Of W. Cleon Skousen's The Naked Capitalist he stated:

    Skousen's book is full of misrepresentations and factual errors. He claims that I have written of a conspiracy of the super-rich who are pro-Communist and wish to take over the world and that I'm a member of this group. But I never called it a conspiracy and don't regard it as such. I'm not an "insider" of these rich persons, although Skousen thinks so. I happen to know some of them and liked them, although I disagreed with some of the things they did before 1940.[32]
    On Gary Allen's None Dare Call It Conspiracy he said

    They thought Dr. Carroll Quigley proved everything. For example, they constantly misquote me to this effect: that Lord Milner (the dominant trustee of the Cecil Rhodes Trust and a heavy in the Round Table Group) helped finance the Bolsheviks. I have been through the greater part of Milner's private papers and have found no evidence to support that. Further, None Dare Call IConspiracy insists that international bankers were a single bloc, were all powerful and remain so today. I, on the contrary, stated in my book that they were much divided, often fought among themselves, had great influence but not control of political life and were sharply reduced in power about 1931-1940, when they became less influential than monopolized industry.
    Seems like Quigley reckons Skousen's full of ****, actually, doesn't it?
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 05-05-2018, 07:36 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

      Quigley was dismissive of the authors who used his writings to support theories of a world domination conspiracy. Of W. Cleon Skousen's The Naked Capitalist he stated:



      On Gary Allen's None Dare Call It Conspiracy he said


      Seems like Quigley reckons Skousen's full of ****, actually, doesn't it?
      Wikipedia is not a reliable source according to Siablo. Anyone can edit it. So I hope he doesn't allow this from you.

      But Quigley seems to be supportive of the aims of the groups he wrote about it. Thinking them to be pursuing Anglo-American supremacy.

      I believe that blinded him.

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      • Damn Wicked, Golovkin, KO, mid rounds 5 to 8

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        • Is Haye vs Bellew over?

          I pick Bellew by decision.

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          • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            "As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest Nation in history because our people had always believed in two things–that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so."
            -Bill Clinton

            https://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/17/n...omination.html
            Okay but did Bill say what he admired about him?

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            • Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
              Okay but did Bill say what he admired about him?
              Does it matter? Quigley is not a nut. That's the point.

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              • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                Does it matter? Quigley is not a nut. That's the point.
                Quigley was talking about the power Rhodes and Milner had. Had

                All your claims be old.

                Now. The nut is the author of that book.

                Again , I only got time for cashews.

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                • Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
                  Quigley was talking about the power Rhodes and Milner had. Had

                  All your claims be old.

                  Now. The nut is the author of that book.

                  Again , I only got time for cashews.
                  From Rhodes and Milner came the Royal Institute of International Affairs as a front for their covert activities. As well as the American branch, the Council on Foreign Relations.

                  Quigley admits as much. So those are just facts.

                  The CFR to this day remains the most influential foreign policy think Tank in the U.S. Having among its members many high level politicians including almost every president.

                  So there is no HAD here. The power is very much still alive.

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                  • Guys, I'm trying to look at bets!

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                    • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      From Rhodes and Milner came the Royal Institute of International Affairs as a front for their covert activities. As well as the American branch, the Council on Foreign Relations.

                      Quigley admits as much. So those are just facts.

                      The CFR to this day remains the most influential foreign policy think Tank in the U.S. Having among its members many high level politicians including almost every president.

                      So there is no HAD here. The power is very much still alive.
                      I bet if we dig into it, it is not as sinister as it used to be.

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