Harder puncher, Wlad or Wilder?

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  • Kaspa9t9
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    #51
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    How would you know lmao!!!???
    Mass, Speed, Technique and quality of opposition.

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    • TJ highway
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      #52
      Father time caught up to Wlad!

      Wilder vs Ortiz was by far a better fight than fight than Joshua vs Parker.

      At the time of stoppage, in the 10th round all three judges had their scorecards 85–84 in favor of Wilder. So it was a close fight! Ortiz has the power to take you out with one punch.

      By far the harder puncher is Wilder? If you add Ortiz in the mix he is actually the stronger puncher than both!

      Wilder just out hustled older bigger man! But I say this again, he was always one away from a KO!

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      • Mr Objecitivity
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        #53
        Wladimir Klitschko hits harder IMO! He doesn't commit to his punches anywhere near as much as Wilder does. Yet, he still manages to knock his opponents out at a regular basis. In fact, even when Wladimir Klitschko doesn't fully commit to his punches, they seem to carry roughly the same power as Wilder's fully committed punches.

        Deontay Wilder has knocked out only a few opponents cold or unconscious cleanly. Most of the others involve him dropping his opponents and then them getting back up and then Wilder landing rabbit punches and landing punches that doesn't connect cleanly with his fist whilst windmilling which causes opponents to be dropped and knocked out illegally. He did this against Luis Ortiz too.

        At this point, I struggle to rate Wilder's punching power higher than even David Haye's. Never mind comparing it to Wladimir Klitschko. David Haye arguably hits just as hard as Wilder. If both Wilder and Wlad were to land their hardest single punch on my arms, I reckon Wlad would inflict the greatest damage and pain.

        Wladimir Klitshcko's power looks effortless. Whilst Wilder's power looks far more strenuous, effortful and labored.

        Also, Wladimir Klitschko's left hook looks more powerful than any single punch Deontay Wilder has in his arsenal. Not to mention, Wladimir Klitschko is a two handed power puncher with concussive power in both hands whilst Deontay Wilder only carries proven power in one hand.

        In a nutshell, Wladimir Klitschko is physically stronger and has potential to hit quite a bit harder than Deontay Wilder if he fully commits to his shots. However, his punch technique is also so much better that he doesn't need to fully commit to his shots like Wilder has to in order to hit as hard as he does to stop opponents.

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        • Tom Cruise
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          #54
          Originally posted by KingHippo
          There's no rationale for that lol. Anyone who thinks Klisthchko is the hardest puncher in history is an idiot. You people crack me up.
          Thats fine, people dont react well when I say that because they think I am talking about him being the greatest puncher ever.

          Im not saying that. Wlad was too conservative with his shots to claim that. Im just talking about raw force proven at the top level.

          This is worth a read if you have the time...



          Wladimir Klitschko hit me by far the hardest, though. I couldn't get past the jab, and his right hands hit like thunder. They reminded me of Lewis', but they were quicker and sharper. Wladimir staggered me regularly in sparring. There are literally whole rounds I don't remember. He also knocked me out with a left hook. Not down, out. Only time in my life I've seen canvas and not been able to stand up by 10 seconds.
          When Wilder has been doing what he did to Ortiz for 10 years at the top level, then we can talk. For now he hasnt done all that much to even be worthy of this comparison.

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          • chargerhemi06
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            #55
            Originally posted by Bjl12
            He couldn't even hurt MW Charlie Zelenoff..????
            He was wearing pillows for that. Besides that, Charlie zelenoff should of been a professional boxer, dude has a chin on him.

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            • Raggamuffin
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              #56
              Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
              Mass, Speed, Technique and quality of opposition.
              Oh. But how do you know that he hits harder? Lol

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #57
                You guys have a bunch of theories on who hits harder lol, but until they hit a punch machine...we won’t know.

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                • New England
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                  #58
                  wilder is one of the hardest punchers i have ever seen. maybe the hardest. he's up there with shavers, tyson, and foreman.

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                  • Just looking
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    Mass and velocity are the 2 factors involved. Each fighter has more of one than the other has. Bottom line is determined by the target's mass. Wlad's power will have more effect on the largest heavies.

                    Something is wrong in your theory as Wlad had problems knocking out the biggest ones while Wilder seems to have a easier time with them. I think that the mechanics have more to do with it, the way Wlad punched was better for shorter fighters, while Wilder punches in a way that is more effective against guys closer to his height

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                    • Just looking
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sheldon312
                      Wrong, Duhapas took everything Wilder threw at him
                      And he was stopped. How much guys took everything coming from Wlad and went the full 12?

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