Explain how a team refusing to negotiate or talk is not ducking

[Tyistall]

What you have to realize is, the guys on these forums all have a favorite fighter. In this case it's Wilder, a guy who has has 40 fights and only 2 decent opponents. So his fans are not living in a world that the rest of us live in. His fans will say that the 2nd Stiverne fight was amazing. They will say that Wilder is better than Tyson, Ali and Foreman all rolled into one. And they also will say that Wilder sending an email saying the money is "in the bag" and then his team refusing to meet with Hearn, they will say that is normal too. A fighter who has been making 1 million per fight (if hes lucky) does not have 50 million "in a bag", a bank or anywhere else. He's saving face and trying to make it look like he is calling the shots. But again, his fans will keep backing him until he loses.

[EnglishOxide]

What you have to realize is, the guys on these forums all have a favorite fighter. In this case it's Wilder, a guy who has has 40 fights and only 2 decent opponents. So his fans are not living in a world that the rest of us live in. His fans will say that the 2nd Stiverne fight was amazing. They will say that Wilder is better than Tyson, Ali and Foreman all rolled into one. And they also will say that Wilder sending an email saying the money is "in the bag" and then his team refusing to meet with Hearn, they will say that is normal too. A fighter who has been making 1 million per fight (if hes lucky) does not have 50 million "in a bag", a bank or anywhere else. He's saving face and trying to make it look like he is calling the shots. But again, his fans will keep backing him until he loses.

Watching him announce that offer, talking about $50m like he is some sort of gangsta was hilarious. He thought he just hit the big money fights as if he was Floyd.

Everyone knows that money doesn't come from you Deontay!

[Finito2K]

Can someone explain how a team who claims to want a fight will go out of their way to avoid a meeting

Avoid a contract to agree details

Ignore the meeting even when someone has come to meet them in their own backyard

Explain to me please how that team is not avoiding the fight and simply talking crap to fool the public

Hell if the amount of effort was put Into sitting down and talking to make the fight that a team has made to avoid the meeting, it would be made by now

Someone just explain the above to me

How can a fight be made of one team is refusing to talk or sign a deal? I am trying to understand the logic behind this

How can a fight be made without meeting or talking ? Without paperwork ? Without negotiations ? What is this sht American fans are trying to defend ?

What’s happened to American boxing ? When did they become this god damn dunce?

When that happens call for a purse bid. That's how Danny Jacobs came around after demanding more money to fight GGG.

[BreakingBox]

Team Wilder threw Hearn a curveball with that offer. I don't think Finkel wants to show all of his cards to Hearn without him agreeing on the money first. Hearn is the type of guy that would say he's interested, but not agree to the offer. After that, Hearn would sit down with Finkel and see all of the details of the fight, where they got the funding, sponsorships, venue, etc, and then go behind their backs to put together the same deal with himself promoting the fight, maybe even bringing in more money with himself promoting it. Team Wilder's offer has gotten Hearn 2nd guessing everything. Hearn knows that there is more money in this fight than he originally estimated, and maybe his money has nearly peaked in the UK. I'm not knocking the UK though. Hearn has made boxing a very big business over there. He's created a superstar that goes by the name of AJ. But Hearn doesn't want to leave any money on the table for this fight, nor does he want to lose complete control of the fight either. I'm a Wilder fan, but honestly, I like Hearn. He makes things interesting and keeps you on your toes. Do I believe everything he says? No, but he speaks the truth most of the time an he's all about making that money and he isn't afraid to tell you that. Since I'm a Wilder fan, do I think Joshua is the best heavyweight out there? He's good, he's very good, but we can talk about that all we want. The Joshua/Wilder fight is all that matters and that is what will prove everything.

[Gigantes]

It's bs. Glad they called Wilder's bluff. Where's Wilder getting 50 mil from? Does Wilder even have enough money to be equivalent to 50 mil pesos?

If Hearn "agreed" to the fight, there would've been another hurdle ready to throw out there

[HURTFEELINGS]

Aj agreed to 50m

Why is Wilder refusing to sign ?

No he didnt and this is why, when we see threads started by YOU, we just avoid them because you operate oblivious to truth, its like youre hearns "throw-away account", everything you ever say is usually blatant untruths. Wont make this mistake again

[HURTFEELINGS]

So Haymon has Showtime/CBS backing him, PBC investors, and somehow you think he CANT cover 50 million, Floyd has that in his back pocket (or duffle bag) yet, you guys, to avoid the truth and the actual fight believe ANYthing Hearn says, Haymon got floyd the Highest sports contract EVER....but youre trying to say 50mil is a problem??? Hearn doesnt practice sending contracts with offers, but you believe thats how this works.......
AJ asked for 50mil
hearns declined.
You guys are willfully ignorant........

[NahMean]

Wilder fans are so deluded lmao. Wilder wants the fight so bad he’s only gave AJ a 24hour time period to accept the offer, he wants the fight so bad that he will not meet with them to make the fight, he wants the fight so bad that he won’t even give any other details.

Only a Wilder fan can believe you’re trying to negotiate a fight you when cancel meetings to negotiate a fight.. LOL so deluded.

Its basic fundamentals of business but you guys lack it. If you see an Iphone on Ebay for $1000, and you ask the seller for details such as which model it is, what size memory it has, what color it is etc and the seller replies you need to buy it first before he gives that information.. Would you but it?

Idiots.

[lfc19titles]

No he didnt and this is why, when we see threads started by YOU, we just avoid them because you operate oblivious to truth, its like youre hearns "throw-away account", everything you ever say is usually blatant untruths. Wont make this mistake again

Aj said

Let’s roll after the 50m

Why is team wilder refusing to meet to make the fight ?

Could it be they are lying like you are ?

[lfc19titles]

So Haymon has Showtime/CBS backing him, PBC investors, and somehow you think he CANT cover 50 million, Floyd has that in his back pocket (or duffle bag) yet, you guys, to avoid the truth and the actual fight believe ANYthing Hearn says, Haymon got floyd the Highest sports contract EVER....but youre trying to say 50mil is a problem??? Hearn doesnt practice sending contracts with offers, but you believe thats how this works.......
AJ asked for 50mil
hearns declined.
You guys are willfully ignorant........

Why is wilder refusing to negotiate ?

Why has an aj left over announced he is fighting wilder on 27th April ?

Could it be wilder ducking and trying to trick people which explains his refusal to fight aj ?

Why is he refusing to sign to fight aj?

Why are you lying ?

What are you all afraid of ?