Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder, by the numbers (Scientific comparison)

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  • Illmatic94
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    #11
    Soooo .. What's your point? yeah AJ is the A side, Wilder and his whole team acknowledge that. So your point exactly is...

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    • Kezzer
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      #12
      Originally posted by Jubei

      This article and the hereby determinated numbers are for educational and informational purpose only.

      If you want to use these numbers in your own studies or articles, please contact me first.
      That's my favorite part!

      I don't think anyone really disputes that Joshua brings 85% of the revenue to the table, Wilder just (rightfully) wants to maximize his own revenue. Anything he can do to therefore justify increasing it he will do so, much simular to Joseph Parkers attempt.

      If Joshua were to stay hardball he could for instance say I'm paying you no more than X , come back when you want to accept.

      However he has proven by taking on other fighters in the way he has so far that money isn't his single motivator, and has said numerous times of his desire to unify all the belts so I don't think that will actually happen.

      Many Wilder fans complained about the $12.5 million offer but let's be realistic here. That is a great offer, ignore everything else - that gives Wilder a payday significantly beyond anything he is likely to have got in total by end of 2019 elsewhere. The real issue for him from the pay perspective is knowing what Joshua can earn, can he eat more into that pie and get even more out of it? Rightfully so in my opinion.

      My overall view is that he will end up with c$15-18m. And let's be honest that is a starting point really, should Wilder win he will get significantly more in any rematch but also increase his value significantly for any subsequent fights against other fighters - so the offer - should he win, is a lot more lucrative than other fights

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      • McNulty
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        #13
        Originally posted by Jubei
        The "unprofessional" dude who did poker shows for many years created a huge star in a couple years while Haymon and his sham promoters werent able to create any buzz for Wilder who has been Pro for twice as long.

        What does that tell you?
        What it tells me is that Joshua would have been a star without Hearn. Warren would have produced the same "star" if you will. Hearn hasn't done anything out of the ordinary really. I didn't even know AJ was with him until recently. In fact, I didn't even know who Eddie Hearn was more than a year ago.

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        • Eff Pandas
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          #14
          Originally posted by Jubei
          Seriously? Oh come on, how can I make that even more obvious.
          Oh you did bruh like I said.

          D+ trolling and aborted you in a different dimension is more successful than you. Your job is done here my friend.

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          • Kezzer
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            #15
            Originally posted by McNulty
            What it tells me is that Joshua would have been a star without Hearn. Warren would have produced the same "star" if you will. Hearn hasn't done anything out of the ordinary really. I didn't even know AJ was with him until recently. In fact, I didn't even know who Eddie Hearn was more than a year ago.
            Which makes it a bigger coup that he went with Hearn in the first place

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            • _Rexy_
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              #16
              This thread again?

              Props for adding social media followers though. My boss does the same when I want a raise.

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              • iamboxing
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                #17
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                Joshua 6.3 Million (~85%)
                Wilder 0.8 Million (~15%)

                Twitter
                Joshua 2 Million (~85%)
                Wilder 0.3 Million (~15%)

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                • HeadBodyBodyBody
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                  #18
                  i thought this would be an interesting thread about actual boxing, but it's just some bs about social media

                  if ISIS were blowing up social media servers, instead of people, i would join. that's a cause i can get on board with

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                  • EnglishOxide
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Illmatic94
                    Soooo .. What's your point? yeah AJ is the A side, Wilder and his whole team acknowledge that. So your point exactly is...

                    If Team Wilder are offering 50/50 if the fight exceeds expectations then Team Wilder do not acknowledge the gulf in earning potential between them at all. It's a BS offer and they don't even want to discuss it.

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                    • Illmatic94
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                      If Team Wilder are offering 50/50 if the fight exceeds expectations then Team Wilder do not acknowledge the gulf in earning potential between them at all. It's a BS offer and they don't even want to discuss it.
                      AJ said "$50 million I'll sign tomorrow." Wilder's side offered $50million minimum, meaning the fight can flop and AJ will still have his desired purse. How does that offer not signify Wilder acknowledges AJ as the A side?

                      There's nothing to discuss until Hearn/AJ accept the money offered. Period. You got the offer totally wrong, no matter what it generates AJ would get his $50million that he demanded. From whatever angle you analyze it he is the A side and Wilder's offer proves it.

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