Not much longer for GGG to decide on the IBF strap

[Eff Pandas]

Agree to fight Sergiy before his fight with Martirosyan.

Oh okay okay yea I heard that now that you bring it up.

Honestly I don't think he can. Although he could get double f#cked by this situation (he could pass on Derevyanchenko next + Canelo could dodge him in Sept. looool). And that means that Canelo vs GGG II gets pushed back to May 2019 which isn't doing a aging GGG any favors.

Yea I don't get this whole situation from GGG's point of view. Fight Derevyanchenko NOW. F#ck Vanes. Stay on track for Canelo in Sept or get BJS in their if Canelo don't want none. Now he's likely backed up to late 2019 with unifying the division BEST CASE. I wouldn't be surprised if they've dropped unifying as a goal now with how conflicted the belts could be real quick + the logically schedule he'd be on + his age. Really no clue what they were thinking here with Vanes.

[The Big Dunn]

I thought the IBF was very fair to GGG on this one given Derevchenkyo deserves the shot he earned.

[Boksfan]

Simple, he should fight Saunders for all the marbles.

[Mammoth]

Simple, he should fight Saunders for all the marbles.

Yes. But he was have to fight his mandatory first.

[GGG Gloveking]

Yes. But he was have to fight his mandatory first.

Does a unification trump a mandatory? I thought I read that somewhere at least with one of the sanctioning orgs. (Maybe WBC??)

[Mammoth]

Does a unification trump a mandatory? I thought I read that somewhere at least with one of the sanctioning orgs. (Maybe WBC??)

IBF pretty much said Derevyanchenko next or get stripped. I don't think they're in the mood to give Golovkin an exception for ****.

[Citizen Koba]

Does a unification trump a mandatory? I thought I read that somewhere at least with one of the sanctioning orgs. (Maybe WBC??)

Usually it would. It may depend on the language of the conditions they've set on allowing him to fight Vanes first though.

Hmmm.. let's see...

Golovkin-Martirosyan must take place on or before May 5, 2018.

Golovkin must agree in writing before the fight that he will next fight the IBF middleweight mandatory within 90 days of the May 5 bout or by Friday, Aug. 3, 2018.

Golovkin must agree in writing before the May 5 fight "to indemnify, hold harmless and otherwise reimburse the IBF for any legal fees or other expenses related to the granting of this exception, including, but not limited to, the cost attendant to any resultant litigation."

Golovkin must "comply with all of the conditions set forth in the granting of this exception" or formal sanction won't be issued for the May 5 bout

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...eep-title-belt


... well it seems pretty clear cut, although it doesn't formally specify that Golovkin couldn't request to fight a unification instead of his mando once the Vanes fight is out of the way. I'd say Big Lou ain't likely to take that without a fight though.

[Street15]

Usually it would. It may depend on the language of the conditions they've set on allowing him to fight Vanes first though.

... well it seems pretty clear cut, although it doesn't formally specify that Golovkin couldn't request to fight a unification instead of his mando once the Vanes fight is out of the way. I'd say Big Lou ain't likely to take that without a fight though.

Yeah. Daryl Peoples doesn't seem like he'd give an exception for ANYONE outside of Sergiy. Not Saunders, not Canelo, not even Floyd if he came back.

Only way he'd be able to get those fights without fighting Sergiy is to 1. give up the belt or 2. hope Sergiy will accept step aside money

IBF is just doing it's job and maintaining their tough stance on mandatories. Though I don't like it, considering GGG's age, the timing, etc - it's completely fair game. This is what happens when you own multiple belts. You will have to defend them each. Exceptions have been granted, now get back to business.

Though he said his goal is to become undisputed - at age 36, if he went for the money (if the Canelo fight was a for sure thing) I wouldn't blame him one bit.

I believe all older fighters should go for the money. I didn't blame Cotto for choosing to fight Canelo over GGG. It was his biggest pay day since his Floyd match in 2012. It was 2x that pay out just as a purse. Plus it had ppv upside. He walked away with $20m. As oppose to fighting GGG, where he would not have made as much. Marginally less than he did against Floyd. Cotto had just turned 35. There were no other BIG fights available for him that would allow him make anywhere near $10, let alone $20.

[DuckAdonis]

if he chooses money hes a ducker

if he chooses title hes an idiot

we got him now!

This it's decided if he truly is man of his word and cares about legacy or just a business man (like he accused canelo to be)

Because beating his mando would do more for his legacy than Beating Canelo...yeah sure buddy

[Citizen Koba]

Yeah. Daryl Peoples doesn't seem like he'd give an exception for ANYONE outside of Sergiy. Not Saunders, not Canelo, not even Floyd if he came back.

Only way he'd be able to get those fights without fighting Sergiy is to 1. give up the belt or 2. hope Sergiy will accept step aside money

IBF is just doing it's job and maintaining their tough stance on mandatories. Though I don't like it, considering GGG's age, the timing, etc - it's completely fair game. This is what happens when you own multiple belts. You will have to defend them each. Exceptions have been granted, now get back to business.

Though he said his goal is to become undisputed - at age 36, if he went for the money (if the Canelo fight was a for sure thing) I wouldn't blame him one bit.

I believe all older fighters should go for the money. I didn't blame Cotto for choosing to fight Canelo over GGG. It was his biggest pay day since his Floyd match in 2012. It was 2x that pay out, with ppv upside. He walked away with $20m. As oppose to fighting GGG, where he would not have made as much. Marginally less than he did against Floyd. Cotto had just turned 35. There were no other BIG fights available for him that would allow him make anywhere near $10, let alone $20.

Oh yeah. Absolutely the IBF are doing the right thing. I've always maintained that the only useful purpose the sanctioning orgs serve is to make top fighters fight their mandatories once in a while. Golovkin's been amongst my favourite fighters over the last 5+ years but he doesn't deserve any special treatment, and no fighter should get to hold the belts hostage and get in the way of the new talent getting their shot.

And yeah, whilst I'd much prefer him to fight all his mandatories and attempt to unify (and that's a gauntlet I'd not expect him to run without taking an L) it's absolutely understandable that he's thinking about his retirement fund about now. Problem is there's every chance that even if he drops his belts (or at least the IBF) Canelo's gonna keep him waiting anyway - quite possibly stringing him along for a while first - probabaly at least til next May, which will just leave Golovkin looking rather daft.